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veritas Visitor	Re:3 Years for spying on kids - 2008/09/03 07:33 well I'm a father and I've taken snaps of my kids when running about naked but it was 30 years ago !. I definitely wouldn't do it now for fear of being accused. We used some at my sons wedding and everybody laughed their heads off ! Again-you are trying to make a "black and white" case of something when this just isn't the case. For example-nude photos of children taken from nudist websites are routinely classified as "child porn "in the UK and described in sensational police press release and subsequently newspapers as "the worst kind of abuse" when clearly no physical abuse is happening. Nudist magazines were published carrying this content right up to the late 80's and parents often accompanied their children in these pictures. It is simply ludicrous to suggest that all nudists are therefore peadophiles because they partcipated in this activity ( which doesn't mean there weren't pedos amongst them..just as in every other walk of life) And in the USA this type of photograph-nude children in no-sexual poses is not classified as child porn as it's protected under the Consitution. There has to be a "sexual" aspect to the photo for it to be classed as porn..but even then that is a difficult concept. There are also several European countries where the subject is treated similarly. As for peadophiles lurking-what about Cap D'Age the completely nudist town in the South of France which I wandered into by chance when staying at a friends nearby house. I was totally unprepared and I admit-totally shocked but by the end of the day-it all appeared to be so normal. Who knows what peadophiles were there feasting on the visual image of so many children running about ? ( I've never been back as I'm scared of skin cancer !) It is a legitimate to bring in the subject of other types of photgraphs or images to illustrate the differing beliefs in law. For instance-the dreadful 9/11 events were guaranteed to garner maximum coverage for a cause. Beheading videos were deliberately distributed for a cause. Watching them-as those who perpetuated those outrages knew many in the West would and did directly contributed to people dying. Contrast that with vision of the WW2 Concentration camps which were specifically ordered by US Army commanders as they feared no-one would accept their stories as true.They were filmed for the right reasion and provide an enduring proof of the evil of the Nazis. So debating this issue is necessary and the "sensational" element should be removed-as promoted by tabloids who take the "black and white" view and perpetuate myths. The police also muddy the water and do routinely exagerate and cause mischief that leads to innocents being charged. Overall-there is simply a driven hysteria about a subject there need not be. I've seen no-one on here condone the abuse of children-I certainly don't and I even find the physical punishment of children abhorrent-I believe they are angels who should be allowed a care free childhood as long as possible. But others use this subject for their own nefarious reasons and it's not always for the protection of children and I find that equally as abhorrent as real child abusers. These witch hunts invariably end up ensnaring innocent people.
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3 Years for spying on kids

Solihull Exile

2008/08/23 14:33