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Topic History of: Strange Bedfellows
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Barney Northern Ireland was created today in 1921, with the partition of Ireland; the South became a dominion.

Since the troubles (guerrilla warfare) began in the late 60s, there has been 50,000 casualties - and 3,500 deaths.

By far, the bloodiest part of the UK - and many residents hope that Brexit will afford it the stability to put the conflicts permanently in the past.


There is a fear though that - if loyalist and/or republican extremists don't get their way - the violence could erupt again.

Yet another dimension of the Brexit saga...



Barney Barney wrote:
Ms May promised £1b to NI for the DUP support (they have 10 MPs), and about half that figure has already been paid


A rash decision, to rely on the Democratic Unionist Party - with 10 MPs.

Knowing the DUP are only interested in one thing. That is the wellbeing and dominance of Protestism in Northern Ireland.


Ironically - Sinn Fein, with a terrorism background also - still refuse to take their elected seats at Westminster (although they accept the expenses/payments).

They support Catholicism and the Republic of Ireland - and, if they decided to take their seats (almost as many as the DUP), they could well swing the impending Brexit decision.




Barney Not only NI, now

But fishing issues with several EU states


And Gibraltar


Leaving a club isn't easy


Particularly when commitments have been made to the club

Without specific deadlines and/or monetary exit formulae



Barney Like so many others, I did.

To pay for political support (to the Province of Northern Ireland, not to the DUP directly) is foolhardy - and bound to end in tears.

In the overall scheme of things, the DUP is an inconsequential and small party - with a violent history (like IRA/Sinn Fein) - and only considers its own vested interests.

For our government to need such support for our biggest post war economic decision - is a said indictment of said government.


honey!oh sugar sugar. Barney wrote:
The 'confidence and supply' agreement between the Tories and the DUP is dead in the water - with the NI party now abstaining on crucial votes.

Ms May promised £1b to NI for the DUP support (they have 10 MPs), and about half that figure has already been paid.

But the DUP, who don't like the Tory Brexit deal - and notwithstanding what happens with the 1922 Committee - will be pivotal and significant.


Enticements could be offered to them again - but should this small and extremist party be allowed to dictate (or have a major say in) the economic future of the UK?




If I remember rightly, you predicted exactly this, right from the start.
It is a horrible situation and I cant see there being a happy solution.