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[b]hedda wrote:[/b]
[quote][b]Barney wrote:[/b]
[quote][b]JK2006 wrote:[/b]
[quote]Hedda's going to hate this but Trump is winning me over; I still hate much of what he stands for (that bloody wall) but I thought he was very good (so far); I suspect he's more popular in the States than the media would like and I find myself agreeing with him on China for example (an excellent New York Times piece today on Tianamen).[/quote]

Yes - and you will note that on the other Trump thread, I have listed just some of his achievements.

Some are put off by his bombastic personality and rhetoric. But America is a better place, since he took office.

Problems are faced by him, not ignored. And unpalatable solutions considered and/or implemented.

The Southern border (to the US) issue will rise to the top of the list, very soon. The constant influx of illegals cannot continue.

:huh:[/quote]

Barney likes Fake News.

[b]The US is a better place? All in the way you look at it.[/b]

The economy has slipped into third place under Trump. He lauds as his achievement (as do his cult-like fans) when the Stock Exchange rallies but ignore when auto stocks crash as they just have after his ridiculous Mexican tariff threats ..what business can think of planning investment years ahead with a president who makes such idle threats?
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Of course a tiny minority are benefiting hugely out of Trump's actions.[/b]

I've witnessed advocates against the False Allegations Industry rally behind Trump when his Supreme Court pick is accused of historic abuse...yet ignore when they and he encourage the very same.. [i]@pizzagate [/i] Hilary Clinton's "crimes" and membership of some mythical Satanic Abuse Cult.

This stuff is straight out of [b]Josef Goebbel[/b]'s playbook ( I don;t believe Trump read [b]Mein Kampf[/b] as claimed..it's an unreadable rant & I doubt he's ever read a book in his life)

[b]Divide and Conquer[/b] ..oldest trick in the book. Maggie did it and it worked. Those who joined the "winning" side of course celebrate and ignore the plight of the (millions) of losers.

He has however exposed a dark underbelly in the USA..was it always there?

Probably.. the [b]Red Neck fascists[/b] number in the millions. They have guns and were "suppressed" in the past via a society that said they were an anathema.. but Trump has not just unleashed them..[b]he has encouraged them[/b] (listen to his speeches..I bet you don't).

They aren't going to stay quiet.

## Interesting how the [b]Tea Party movement[/b] has crashed and burned mainly from grifters who raised tens of $Millions from red neck fanatics, clueless small American farmers and business owners etc..yet handed over a tiny fraction of $$s to the movement and [b]Republican[/b] candidates and kept the bulk in "fees" for themselves. Totally ignored.

### Same grifters have just done the same by raising $multi-millions to Build The Wall from same people but been told by numerous local US governments to shove off..a perfect excuse to pocket the cash.
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Why not when you have a [b]Grifter In Chief[/b] ?

TURKEY'S VOTING FOR CHRISTMAS [/b].. [i]and even preparing the dinner and asking what time should they get into the oven.
[/i] :huh:  :huh:[/quote]

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Topic History of: So far Trump has done very well
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Silent Minority	hedda wrote: Barney wrote: Wage growth has accelerated, GDP has grown by over 3% and the size of the economy is much bigger. Unemployment is down and the numbers in employment have increased; immigration has reduced. Yes Hedda - Trump is doing an awful job, since elected! Are any of these facts wrong? Look, I can cite endless sources about Trump's disastrous "polices" but I have to assume that you two have a personal involvement where perhaps you benefit personally from Trump's appalling policies but, you know the whole idea is that the entire bloody country benefits and it isn't. Trump's trade wars sent global investment tumbling – World Bank Trump Is Slowing US Economic Growth Barney.. for Christ's Sake stop saying fucking employment has increased because it's a lie. The USA is a country where tens of millions of citizens work 2 jobs just to pay the rent. You both are posting the most vapid claims that upon examination are far more complex when investiagted.. or.. The pair of you..Please Explain which of Donald Trump's policies will increase employment and how. And do it NOW or forever hold your tongues. I've made no claims hedda...but are still waiting for you to validate yours about the USA dropping to third. I actually like the idea of slowing growth,at least upward growth will continue, without the boom and bust of previous Presidents...I don't particularly see Trump as a good President, but he is not the bad president as the former ones have been... ..Figures show the working classes have been losing out from the nation's growth since around 1970...a population of around 200 million then,300m now.... ...and at least he is being honest about globalisation...it will take a serious world recession before the states will act though...far too many vested and conflicting interests. I just had the most amazing Chinese dinner...and at less than £15 for two of us!....why are we talking Trump?
Barney	tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate Lowest jobless rate for 50 years
hedda	Barney wrote: Wage growth has accelerated, GDP has grown by over 3% and the size of the economy is much bigger. Unemployment is down and the numbers in employment have increased; immigration has reduced. Yes Hedda - Trump is doing an awful job, since elected! Are any of these facts wrong? Look, I can cite endless sources about Trump's disastrous "polices" but I have to assume that you two have a personal involvement where perhaps you benefit personally from Trump's appalling policies but, you know the whole idea is that the entire bloody country benefits and it isn't. Trump's trade wars sent global investment tumbling – World Bank Trump Is Slowing US Economic Growth Barney.. for Christ's Sake stop saying fucking employment has increased because it's a lie. The USA is a country where tens of millions of citizens work 2 jobs just to pay the rent. You both are posting the most vapid claims that upon examination are far more complex when investiagted.. or.. The pair of you..Please Explain which of Donald Trump's policies will increase employment and how. And do it NOW or forever hold your tongues.
Silent Minority	Barney wrote: Wage growth has accelerated, GDP has grown by over 3% and the size of the economy is much bigger. Unemployment is down and the numbers in employment have increased; immigration has reduced. Yes Hedda - Trump is doing an awful job, since elected! Are any of these facts wrong? Hedda can be a Little erratic with the facts...I'm sure he posted the USA had slipped to third in the world...but I did ask him to give us the facts behind the statement...I cannot recall an answer...but then again I'm too busy to keep up with all the forum posts...so perhaps he may now enlighten us with those facts?
Barney	Wage growth has accelerated, GDP has grown by over 3% and the size of the economy is much bigger. Unemployment is down and the numbers in employment have increased; immigration has reduced. Yes Hedda - Trump is doing an awful job, since elected! Are any of these facts wrong?