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[b]wjlmarsh wrote:[/b]
[quote][b]Honey wrote:[/b]
[quote]We know that conspiracies have happened because they have eventually been revealed, so it is logical to assume that, people being much the same whichever era they are born into, conspiracies will still be happening, now and again.[/quote]

I agree with Honey. Only in that people at all levels, in all time periods, family, friends, local, national and international can and do conspire It can be in harmony, coercive, fear - all sorts of reasons. Like false accusers and historic sexual abuse. There are "real cases" and exaggerations and lies. And absolutely lots of conspiring often "unspoken" like appeal judges will seldom go out on a limb to correct an injustice because people are emotionally bound to keep within the norms.

So all these things including nationalism, political  ideals many good things when used correctly, in a timely manner and well reasoned contribute positively yet taken out balance to extremes like Germany under Hitler nationalism became pure evil. Yet nationalism can be positive creating great countries.

So basically the extreme and damaging things like all the crazy lunatic conspiracy theories can point to the known facts of conspiracy as a basis for their lunatic theory. Bin Laden and cohorts did conspire to destroy the the twin towers and two other targets. All based from actual events, motives and declared threats. The rest is pure imagination put forward with often no foundation to why would the CIA or whoever is named, do such a thing. It is possible for some to withhold information. I understand that is what happen about a bombing raid on Coventry during the second world war. But even in retrospect the situation and decision is hard to say there was not good reasoning for such. And it was not some long term conspiracy.

In regards to conspiracy theories good reasoning, balance and facts are all things needed to point to the most likely correct conclusions with ongoing openness to new information. Put it another way believe nothing check everything.[/quote]

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wjlmarsh	Honey wrote: We know that conspiracies have happened because they have eventually been revealed, so it is logical to assume that, people being much the same whichever era they are born into, conspiracies will still be happening, now and again. I agree with Honey. Only in that people at all levels, in all time periods, family, friends, local, national and international can and do conspire It can be in harmony, coercive, fear - all sorts of reasons. Like false accusers and historic sexual abuse. There are "real cases" and exaggerations and lies. And absolutely lots of conspiring often "unspoken" like appeal judges will seldom go out on a limb to correct an injustice because people are emotionally bound to keep within the norms. So all these things including nationalism, political ideals many good things when used correctly, in a timely manner and well reasoned contribute positively yet taken out balance to extremes like Germany under Hitler nationalism became pure evil. Yet nationalism can be positive creating great countries. So basically the extreme and damaging things like all the crazy lunatic conspiracy theories can point to the known facts of conspiracy as a basis for their lunatic theory. Bin Laden and cohorts did conspire to destroy the the twin towers and two other targets. All based from actual events, motives and declared threats. The rest is pure imagination put forward with often no foundation to why would the CIA or whoever is named, do such a thing. It is possible for some to withhold information. I understand that is what happen about a bombing raid on Coventry during the second world war. But even in retrospect the situation and decision is hard to say there was not good reasoning for such. And it was not some long term conspiracy. In regards to conspiracy theories good reasoning, balance and facts are all things needed to point to the most likely correct conclusions with ongoing openness to new information. Put it another way believe nothing check everything.
Honey	Mark stuart wrote: I wonder if there is, or ever has been, some big conspiracy? Something along the lines of jfk assassination, 9/11, new world order, etc. I dont believe any of these, so there probably hasnt. These always fall apart when the nitty gritty of evidence is looked into. It is probably something that doesn't even raise suspicion.
Mark stuart	I wonder if there is, or ever has been, some big conspiracy? Something along the lines of jfk assassination, 9/11, new world order, etc. I dont believe any of these, so there probably hasnt. These always fall apart when the nitty gritty of evidence is looked into.
Bookworm	Did MI5 or the royal family kill Diana? Was Jill Dando killed because of pedophiles? Look how popular those ones became. No lawyers raising concerns about that. People will pay for what they say. How many hide behind this crap talk to try to alleviate their own criminal conscience? Still no names of clients in the Epstein scandal. Prince Andrew was the only one, was he? Attack him because he's a royal. The proof is in the silence.
Honey	We know that conspiracies have happened because they have eventually been revealed, so it is logical to assume that, people being much the same whichever era they are born into, conspiracies will still be happening, now and again.