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Green Man
Rick wrote: Green Man wrote: I'm sure Peel, was a troll before trolling was fashionable. The Fall were awful and dull to my ears but that's my opinion.
Didn't Peel, discover OMD and Clifford T Ward?
I don't know about discover, but he played them early on and I think Clifford T Ward was signed to Dandelion. But whereas a 'normal' person would retain an interest and affection for the music he used to champion, Peel would regularly shun the old acts as if he was trying to atone for old sins! His producer John Walters wasn't like that at all, and he was a really shrewd (and hilarious) man who kept Peel's show from becoming totally unlistenable.
But Peel's attitude was odd. Can you imagine a movie critic who's seen everything from Citizen Kane to The Godfather, but then acts as if, say, La La Land was the greatest thing he'd ever seen? Mark E Smith, my god, I wondered about Peelie's sanity at times!
When he was Room 101 his eccentric stood out.
Rick
Green Man wrote: I'm sure Peel, was a troll before trolling was fashionable. The Fall were awful and dull to my ears but that's my opinion.
Didn't Peel, discover OMD and Clifford T Ward?
I don't know about discover, but he played them early on and I think Clifford T Ward was signed to Dandelion. But whereas a 'normal' person would retain an interest and affection for the music he used to champion, Peel would regularly shun the old acts as if he was trying to atone for old sins! His producer John Walters wasn't like that at all, and he was a really shrewd (and hilarious) man who kept Peel's show from becoming totally unlistenable.
But Peel's attitude was odd. Can you imagine a movie critic who's seen everything from Citizen Kane to The Godfather, but then acts as if, say, La La Land was the greatest thing he'd ever seen? Mark E Smith, my god, I wondered about Peelie's sanity at times!
Green Man
I'm sure Peel, was a troll before trolling was fashionable. The Fall were awful and dull to my ears but that's my opinion.
Didn't Peel, discover OMD and Clifford T Ward?
Little Sausage
jk you always make me smile
I think it's your Englishness that's so likeable.. and the records you made and even the very recent ones
are so English sounding. There's something endearing to the English culture even in this horridly dysfunctional age we live in.
Johnny Reggae- I didn't realise it was made so long ago 1971, for some reason I thought it was 73/74
I remember hearing it on Radio Northsea at night.
Johnny Reggae has had hundreds of thousands of views/listens on YouTube as there's a number of videos up there plus a few cover versions.
On the video here there is also the Instrumental version of the track.. (good for JonJo Music, publishing on both sides of the record..)
Today's pop reggae is called Reggaeton and a really big pop reggaeton song is "Laxed (Siren Beat)" which is huge on TikTok.
For any producers out there - listen to the Instrumental version to decipher the jk reggae sound/arrangements...
Key D Major then towards the end it goes up to E Flat Major (the jk signature key change)
Rick
I agree with you about Peel. I loved him as a broadcaster, but for me a music expert should do two things: one, engage with the present, and two, place it in a proper historical perspective. But Peel seemed so desperate to do the former, he seemed to shun the latter. It was as if the Men in Black kept wiping his memory every month.
If you've lived long and heard all kinds of music, then that knowledge is beneficial in appreciating, as well as critiquing, new music. If you pretend that nothing matters but the here and now, you just bounce around from fad to fad.
I mean, Peel lived through Elvis, The Beatles, Dylan, Brian Wilson, Motown, Led Zep, Bowie, Roxy Music, etc etc, and yet he'd claim that The Fall were the best band he'd ever heard. Really??? He'd sneer at anyone who still loved old music as well as new music. It was weirdly, childishly, dogmatic.
It's great to stay fresh and open to new music, but blanking out your own musical past is just irrational. That's why I used to be driven mad by Peel as well as loving him. Everything now was supposedly far better than anything back then. If you want that attitude, you may as well just keep appointing 17 year olds to play music.
And what used to niggle is that no one ever seemed to pick Peel up on it. No one said, 'Do you REALLY think The Fall eclipses all of the great groups of the past?' Instead they used to just nod their heads respectfully and pretend they agreed with him. It's why his programme, though easy to admire, was such a tough thing to endure.
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