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[b]Green Man wrote:[/b]
[quote][b]Jo wrote:[/b]
[quote]I haven't seen the film in a while but did think there was racism in the silly squeaky-voiced maid, especially in the scene where Scarlett slaps her across the face. I seem to remember seeing a documentary about how blacks were portrayed in films in Hollywood and that actress had been asked to eat a slice of watermelon in a film, possibly Gone with the Wind, and had refused because she felt it was racist.

I wonder if French and Saunders' sketches of Gone with the Wind should be banned too. There was something on the news yesterday that Little Britain reruns are no longer going to be shown somewhere because of the portrayal of non-white characters in some of the sketches.[/quote]

Once we stopped TV repeats because off non pc content, do we go on to book burning ?

I tried Little Britain for 5 minutes then, throw my remote at the TV. I'm not in to TV comedy especially now.

Comedians should not apologize for jokes nor pander to mobs. I loved going the old comedy clubs in Manhattan and Brooklyn back in the 1980s.

The old black comedians were amazing, took the piss out of everything and everyone, same with the one was a headteacher. No blacks were offended either with his jokes in the club. It was all tit for tat and they were JOKES.[/quote]

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Topic History of: Gone with the Wind
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Green Man	Honey wrote: Barney wrote: Honey wrote: Anyone who is not prepared to bulldoze the pyramids (built by slaves) can shut up. Most historians and Egyptologists now believe that the Great Pyramids were not built by slaves. Rather by peasants who were promised a role in the afterlife - in return for their toil, for which they received food and lodgings. A significant number of workers travelled from abroad - making it even more unlikely that they choose to be slaves. Oh I see. So a bit like the fruit pickers we rip off then? Blame the farmers - they don't want British workers because then they have to pay the minimum wage.
Green Man	Barney wrote: Green Man wrote: Sounds like a crafty way to get slaves. Perhaps. But Pharaohs were believed to be all powerful - and the intermediaries between man, and the Gods. And the Gods gave prosperity, sent plagues and won battles. On death - a Pharaoh became devine - and, so for a man to help build his tomb was considered as a free pass to immortality. Masons and craftsmen (as well as peasants) came from all over to ensure their futures after death - and brought their families with them. With entry into heaven/after life assured (family included) - if they worked hard, and followed the instructions of the Pharaohs' architects and foremen. This total belief - of achieving immortality by following the will of God - still features strongly in many religions today. A heavenly after death is often the aim and rationale for fighting to the end - and for suicide bombers - and promoted as such by some organisations, for their own aims. All whilst disguising slavery and banging their own family members ? Reminds me of Portland, Oregon.
Jo	Green Man wrote: Once we stopped TV repeats because off non pc content, do we go on to book burning ? I don't think French and Saunders or Little Britain reruns should be stopped. I agree that it's a slippery slope. Honey wrote: To be fair, I think anyone who lies about being practically a midwife so she is left in sole charge, only to bleat "oh Miss Scarlett, I dont know nuffin bout birfin babies" when her services are required and the Yankees are coming, is liable to get a thump! Yes, I think part of what makes that scene uncomfortable is that part of you (or at least me) thinks the maid deserved it. But if I'm not mistaken even white women being slapped across the face when they got hysterical, and perhaps when they didn't, wasn't unusual in old Hollywood films. Butterfly McQueen thought the scene was demeaning at the time, but later said... "As I look back on "Gone with the Wind," for instance, I feel it is useful to have this authenticity, We've got to know more about where we've come from. I wasn't too happy about the whole thing, but also later in life, as I looked around, I decided to take what I could get and then use it for what I want to do." That's interesting.
Barney	Green Man wrote: Sounds like a crafty way to get slaves. Perhaps. But Pharaohs were believed to be all powerful - and the intermediaries between man, and the Gods. And the Gods gave prosperity, sent plagues and won battles. On death - a Pharaoh became devine - and, so for a man to help build his tomb was considered as a free pass to immortality. Masons and craftsmen (as well as peasants) came from all over to ensure their futures after death - and brought their families with them. With entry into heaven/after life assured (family included) - if they worked hard, and followed the instructions of the Pharaohs' architects and foremen. This total belief - of achieving immortality by following the will of God - still features strongly in many religions today. A heavenly after death is often the aim and rationale for fighting to the end - and for suicide bombers - and promoted as such by some organisations, for their own aims.
Green Man	Barney wrote: Honey wrote: Anyone who is not prepared to bulldoze the pyramids (built by slaves) can shut up. Most historians and Egyptologists now believe that the Great Pyramids were not built by slaves. Rather by peasants who were promised a role in the afterlife - in return for their toil, for which they received food and lodgings. A significant number of workers travelled from abroad - making it even more unlikely that they choose to be slaves. Sounds like a crafty way to get slaves.