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Topic History of: Those of us less keen on the Arab spring...
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In The Know JK2006 wrote:
why allow clueless people who vote on simplistic slogans, good hair and teeth to decide who to run things?)

Indeed.
Britain ruled the world when the landed classes ran the country !

but my approach against violent interference in other regime changes remains... on the other hand I am strongly in favour of supporting governments financially and with trade, tourism etc.

I also agree, and am (normally) against violence as I believe it rarely achieves anything BUT would Hitler have backed down if we had simply removed trade and tourism? I think not.

Despotic dictators understand only one thing !

... and if we acted when I first suggested we attack Syria, then more lives could have been saved, as the ongoing war shows absolutely no sign of ending.
Pattaya JK2006 wrote:
But getting back to the original point, yes, democracy takes time (although I don't think it works - why allow clueless people who vote on simplistic slogans, good hair and teeth to decide who to run things?) but my approach against violent interference in other regime changes remains... on the other hand I am strongly in favour of supporting governments financially and with trade, tourism etc.

Interesting to note that when any increase in popular representation in Muslim countries has been allowed that an increase of more extreme Muslim laws has taken place.

Afghanistan and Persia were quite progressive places for things like religious tolerance/women's rights etc during the 70s. I believe now they have the death sentence for those who turn away from Islam.
Pattaya In The Know (as always) wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
'Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens participate equally'

Eligible !

Thats the key word .... to start with most could not even read or write, and had simply no understanding - why should they be "eligible" ? They had their educated peers to look after their interests.

to the detriment of the lower class natives you think so little of.

...... and why should we waste (even more) money on them?

Their destiny is sealed - they will become till operatives in a Pound shop - and you don't need to be able to read to do that - the scanner does all the work ! They don't even need to be able to add-up ... the till does all that for them.

Then we can spend the money on the retired (those who deserve it - because they HAVE worked for 50 years, and HAVE paid tax, and HAVE contributed to society).


Back to the Pea?

I had a lovely full day in the Eurozone ITK,perfect weather,great food,attractive feminine company.Hoiw was it up your way?
JK2006 But getting back to the original point, yes, democracy takes time (although I don't think it works - why allow clueless people who vote on simplistic slogans, good hair and teeth to decide who to run things?) but my approach against violent interference in other regime changes remains... on the other hand I am strongly in favour of supporting governments financially and with trade, tourism etc.
In The Know (as always) Pattaya wrote:
'Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens participate equally'

Eligible !

Thats the key word .... to start with most could not even read or write, and had simply no understanding - why should they be "eligible" ? They had their educated peers to look after their interests.

to the detriment of the lower class natives you think so little of.

...... and why should we waste (even more) money on them?

Their destiny is sealed - they will become till operatives in a Pound shop - and you don't need to be able to read to do that - the scanner does all the work ! They don't even need to be able to add-up ... the till does all that for them.

Then we can spend the money on the retired (those who deserve it - because they HAVE worked for 50 years, and HAVE paid tax, and HAVE contributed to society).