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Topic History of: Momentum
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In The Know |
MT wrote:
For the record, Momentum is nothing like Militant. I'm old enough to remember both, and know people in both.
This is new politics, and the oldies - a bit like me - are often just not 'getting it'. It's not just young people either. New ways of communicating, new ways of organising.
new ways of intimidation ?
new ways of voting (students voted TWICE !)
Nothing new about this .... they couldn;t have a "new idea" if their lives depended on it.
New (Tory) PM by October - then 4 and a half years before the next election - by which time all these young impressionables will be more concerned with their careers, mortgages etc to worry about Loony Trots ! |
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JK2006 |
Thank you MT - exactly as I feel. I like and trust what I've seen of Corbyn; he's a far left extremist who has adapted as he's aged and, like John Mac, has come up with a formula that just might work in the modern world. Neither Communism or Capitalism has worked without being adapted. This new form of Left Wing Socialism looks interesting at least. Capitalism has ignored the poor and needy (and refugees). Communism failed to take into account that we are all individuals with different talents, ambitions and goals. Take the best of both. Dump the worst of both.
What's more, every insult hurled at either side pushes the majority away. One of the things I admired about Corbyn is that he didn't revive the old public school shouting match aspect of Prime Minister's Questions. I became so hating of it I couldn't watch anymore. He's reasoned, balanced, not confrontational (God knows how - I would be hurling shit at May). The more media and other politicians go on about "it's all the other party's fault" and silly nicknames, the more voters warm to the calm and considered, positive party.
Corbyn will, as I have predicted, be Prime Minister soon, and a good thing too. Whether his policies will work I don't know - and with Brexit looming I suspect no policy can reverse the disaster. |
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China is a capitalist country - look inland, millions of peasants struggling to survive. (In China, CorbynTrot would be in a prison camp)
All Communist countries had out-dated infastructure (so much for "borrowing to invest"!) and were up to their borrowing limit as they used all their income to service their debts.
Decaying buildings ... run down factories ... poor growth ... low wages ... no benefits (that mattered)
- why do you think people were queuing up to overthrow such regimes??? |
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MT |
For the record, Momentum is nothing like Militant. I'm old enough to remember both, and know people in both.
This is new politics, and the oldies - a bit like me - are often just not 'getting it'. It's not just young people either. New ways of communicating, new ways of organising.
The old left want to try and latch on (leech) off this, but they stick out a mile and are easily fended off.
Jeremy is genuinely being open and democratic, and is explicitly warning old lefties to stay away - they would like to deselct the Blairites - he is saying definitley "No".
The right wing (Tories and Blairites) just don't get it either - trotting out the old hard left nonsense. What Jeremy proposes is a return to the mixed economy of the post war consensus, but with a modern approach. Build homes, nationalise key elements of services (water, Rail, Electric perhaps). The bits the Thatcherites went too far with.
This agends appeals to the young, who have a cat in hell's chance of owning property.
I must admit that old cynic like me has been reinvigorated by this new movement. (I've even engaged in interesting political discussions with my kids as well, which I never expected.) |
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JK2006 |
China seems to be doing OK. |
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