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Topic History of: Harvey Weinstein: some truth (for dills like ITK who still believes tabloids) Max. showing the last 5 posts - (Last post first)
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In The Know
hedda wrote: Jesus the First Socialist.
He can't have been a socialist .... he had a job !
(He was a carpenter ... in the days before we had to import them from Poland)
In The Know
Good piece Hedda - shame about the infantile TYPING !...
md
Jo wrote: I also can't understand why adults should be praised for their bravery in allowing a supposed abuser to continue for years. It sounds to me as if he may well have tried his luck with certain women, with some probably spurning his advances, but also wonder whether past events are now being reconfigured for effect.
I think more long-term damage is caused to society by not taking responsibility to report incidents of abuse as soon as possible - even if not believed and a subsequent investigation is unable to uncover any evidence. It's only at this stage that a humane way of dealing with the problem can be established and that any corrective measures can be taken - even if this involves just a hint of warning. Leaving things to fester and develop into a witch-hunt of mammoth proportions years later is not only destructive but actually perpetuates abuse, albeit of a different kind. Making outspoken comments unsupported by evidence is also abuse.
Jo
On the one hand, if his behaviour was impeccable, why did he apologise?
On the other, here is Rose McGowan ("In 1997, Mr. Weinstein reached a previously undisclosed settlement with Rose McGowan, then a 23-year-old-actress, after an episode in a hotel room during the Sundance Film Festival. The $100,000 settlement was “not to be construed as an admission” by Mr. Weinstein, but intended to “avoid litigation and buy peace,” according to the legal document, which was reviewed by The Times. Ms. McGowan had just appeared in the slasher film “Scream” and would later star in the television show “Charmed.” She declined to comment."New York Times; "Talk that she was sexually assaulted by Weinstein has circulated since at least 2016, when McGowan tweeted about being “raped” by a studio executive. She’s emerged in the past few days as one of Weinstein’s most fervent critics."Huffpost):
Rose McGowan on Sexism in Hollywood & Life After Grindhouse (YouTube: BDKlrey9ETc)
hedda wrote: This is a game of prostitution where deals are done..and that includes Ashley Judd who only speaks now and if these tales were true- she was an enabler of assault
The "dress" shown in the video that McGowan chose to wear the year after her payout certainly looks like something from a prostitution emporium. She apparently has an autobiography in the pipeline called "Brave" (www.harpercollins.com/9780062655981/brave).
I also can't understand why adults should be praised for their bravery in allowing a supposed abuser to continue for years. It sounds to me as if he may well have tried his luck with certain women, with some probably spurning his advances, but also wonder whether past events are now being reconfigured for effect.
hedda
Spee32HR wrote: Good piece Hedda - shame about the infantile response...
wasn't it absolutely brilliant Spree !
You too will walk beside me in Paradise along with Jesus the First Socialist.
Anyone who can understand that gobbledygook can't be that bad.
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