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Topic History of: Mending Broken Souls
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holocaust21 |
Well honey if you meant exactly what you meant to say then I very much doubt there are many (or any) priests who have seriously abused anyone. Most of it will be minor stuff or age of consent related and so not harm or abuse. Or, I suspect in many cases, just lies.
wjlmarsh you claim feminism is about "equality" but it is not. The only people who think feminism is about equality are 1) people suffering from autism 2) feminists and 3) people who haven't thought about it and/or don't care and so just accept the generally held narrative.
The reason I say people suffering from autism think it's about equality is because they have a tendency to go "ooh look a dictionary says its equality, so that's the rule and thus it is about equality" but what they don't realise is that there's a difference between rules that are stated and rules in practice. In practice feminism is about female supremacy. The psychology of feminists is that "women are victims of the patriarchy" that is literally what they all believe. Ask any feminist and she'll tell you that women have been victimised throughout history at the hands of men. Yet they will then go on to tell you that "feminism is an equality movement". The thing is any feminists definition of equality comes from a certain perspective i.e. that women are victims and men are perpetrators. As a consequence it is conceivable that a feminist might not even be lying when she says "feminism is an equality movement" yet at the same time she is actually seeking female supremacy. Why is she seeking female supremacy? Because she has the factually incorrect view that women are victims and men are perpetrators. Historically men have always been sent off to die in war, some 95% of work place deaths are men, 95% of the homeless are men, men commit suicide at 3-4x the rate of women, 95% of the prison population is men, 30-40% of domestic violence is against men (and this could be an underestimate), men die earlier than women, men work longer hours than women, MGM is tolerated but FGM is heavily criminalised. The list goes on and on. The consequence of someone who believes that women suffer more than men when it is actually the other way around is that in practice they end up engaging in female supremacy.
What I do agree with both wjlmarsh & honey on though is that it is not all women who make up rape allegations. Some men do make up allegations, and some men support and create laws that get other men locked up for rape. It's hard to say with any certainty as to the extent it is "feminists" but it's hard not to put a large part of the blame on that collectivist movement. And even for those who might sit outside of what you would call a "feminist" they'll often still be seen making feminist-style arguments so regardless it would seem prudent to smash the feminist identity politics movement so at least then people will be forced to actual think and make rational individual arguments rather than feed off the hive mind with tautological garbage like "she can't consent because she can't consent" or ageism like "he was much older and more powerful than little me" etc etc. |
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honey!oh sugar sugar. |
holocaust21 wrote:
I really dont see what feminists have to do with abuse in the church. Nearly everyone is horrified by someone harming a young child, or abusing a position of trust with someone older.
Feminists have EVERYTHING to do with it because it involves:
1. Making an allegation and automatically having it believed.
2. Deliberately imprecise language calling it "rape" or "abuse" when it's actually underage sex for example. Much like what you were trying to do in that very sentence of yours.
My language is not imprecise,thank you! .
I said exactly what I meant to say.
Have you not noticed the thousands of false allegations from MEN?
They are believed too,and it is most often men who doing the believing. |
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wjlmarsh |
holocaust21 wrote:
I really dont see what feminists have to do with abuse in the church. Nearly everyone is horrified by someone harming a young child, or abusing a position of trust with someone older.
Feminists have EVERYTHING to do with it because it involves:
1. Making an allegation and automatically having it believed.
2. Deliberately imprecise language calling it "rape" or "abuse" when it's actually underage sex for example. Much like what you were trying to do in that very sentence of yours.
honey!oh sugar sugar has raised a fair point and I see that feminists in general receive a lot of the blame for false and exaggerated accusations (In recent times quite a number of vocal, acknowledged feminist, some in the Labour party are definitely flouting the very principles of equality and fairness they supposedly advocate).
So to refresh my understanding of the general idea of the feminist movement I read some of the Wiki article.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism
But clearly the individuals advocating the "just believe and condemn" are male, female, opportunists, fantasists, politicians, media people like actors and actresses, judges, CPS, fraudsters the list just goes on. Yet the feminism movement is all about equality and fairness so any who promote otherwise have moved from the core movement and are only feminists in name. The police who do not investigate by taking all reasonable steps are acting outside what is their duty. The CPS who "just believe" who may even take the "credible sounding part" of their rules but at the same time ignore the instructions on checking for "reliable evidence" and to "be objective" have moved away from their duty and obligations and start acting criminally themselves. So groups and churches all are open to move away from what they are expected to be. So I suggest women who exaggerate, lie. just believe or even when truthful but no evidence available are speaking for themselves and certainly not the core feminist movement of equality and fairness.
So I see many from all areas acting in way that none would want to happen to themselves.
The Wiki article on age of consent is quite enlightening as well.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent
Mending souls, age of consent, human rights, justice and juries (how to achieve justice, fairness - a jury / no jury a mixture other things) I now see, are not really understood. Objectives/ procedures development is in the infancy stage still. We have laws but I see little to no guidance to what the objectives are. Or acknowledgment that people lie, are dishonest and governed by emotions among other important things.
I see a real need for age of consent, open discussion, education about sex and relationships. All huge topics. |
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holocaust21 |
I really dont see what feminists have to do with abuse in the church. Nearly everyone is horrified by someone harming a young child, or abusing a position of trust with someone older.
Feminists have EVERYTHING to do with it because it involves:
1. Making an allegation and automatically having it believed.
2. Deliberately imprecise language calling it "rape" or "abuse" when it's actually underage sex for example. Much like what you were trying to do in that very sentence of yours. |
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honey!oh sugar sugar. |
holocaust21 wrote:
Barney please stop abusing the English language like a typical feminist. Catch phrases like "sexual abuse of children" is such an unsophisticated, deliberately inaccurate use of language. If you are referring to priests having sexual relationships with children below the arbitrary age of 18 then say that. And when you do say that, then my response is: That's a crime beyond the pale!? Are you kidding me? Not only that, but you start comparing men who fuck young people with Hitler. Dude, seriously? WHAT THE FUCK (!!!)
Anyway, my personal suspicion is that the whole "paedophile catholic priest" thing is protestants hating on catholics, who are also then joined by secular feminists who always love to lock up some blokes for rape and get the chance to bash religion while they're at it. What more could you want!? Unfortunately, the catholic church are too cucked to realise what is happening, so they are just falling on their own sword. Instead, they should be pointing out that in the Bible God banged a 13 year old girl (Virgin Mary) and made her pregnant (or at least that's the most famous instance of paedophilia in the Bible). I believe there are more, but I don't remember off the top of my head.
I really dont see what feminists have to do with abuse in the church.
Nearly everyone is horrified by someone harming a young child, or abusing a position of trust with someone older. |
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