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Topic History of: 5000 Jaguar jobs to go; dear old Brexit; what a great idea (not)
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Wyot |
Ms V Parsimonious wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
Which - Covid or a no-deal Brexit - will cost us most?
A no deal Brexit because Covid hasn't cost us anything - lockdowns have.
(Sorry, couldn't resist!)
Real answer, no idea. But our debt is already monstrous, so how anyone thinks we can pay more for anything is beyond me.
But politicians debate lockdown support as if money is no issue at all.... |
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Ms V Parsimonious |
Wyot wrote:
I think a deal remains the most likely outcome
You may be right.
But a deal on the telephone today - after months of face-to-face negotiations by seasoned officials - seems a bridge too far.
Few countries will climb off their horses, with some already gearing up for a 2021 exit.
Which - Covid or a no-deal Brexit - will cost us most? |
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Wyot |
It is all posturing - "we are hanging tough in there for the EU/Britain" - while the real details get worked out elsewhere.
I think a deal remains the most likely outcome, but there may be some further agreed delay. The other problem could be EU countries (particularly France if the EU gives too much ground on fishing) putting a veto on any agreememt.
It is all so boring and unnecessary. While I am a remainer as I can't see any point in doing any of this, it probably won't be as bad as most remainers make out. |
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Ms V Parsimonious |
Commander wrote:
at the cost of leaving the EU without a deal.
Yes it's now became clear that fisheries - which are almost insignificant to us financially - were indeed the stumbling block.
A telephone call today between Johnson and von der Leyen is the only hope for a no-deal Brexit. It is highly unlikely they will have a solution.
So, we will welcome in the New Year with higher prices, red tape and unending paperwork for our trade and travel - and many other things beside. |
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Commander |
One of the principal matters of dispute, in the ongoing negotiations, is fishing - which seems unusual, bearing in mind that it amounts to only 0.12% of our GDP. But our seafaring traditions are strong and ports, like Grimsby, have lost over 50% of their fleets over the past 30 years.
As a result of membership of the Common Fisheries Policy, the UK can only catch less than 20% of the fish that swim in British Waters. Most of the cod caught in the English Channel is by French trawlers - with Spain, Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark the other main players.
Many think this issue is relatively unimportant, overall - but the UK is standing firm in an attempt to win back its maritime status and superiority. Which it has lost since joining the EEC in 1973 - but, as is highly probable, at the cost of leaving the EU without a deal. |
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