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Topic History of: The world today (with Covid19)
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wyot |
Barney wrote:
Links 2,3 and 4 don't seem to work.
The one that does confirms the study as one from 4 scientists from 3 countries - which seems less than conclusive.
Grey areas continue to exist - but the coranovirus obese/affluent category would explain the high levels of US infections.
Barney yes it was 4 scientists from 3 countries but they came to their conclusions by analysing data from 50 countries.
Don't do what the Media do!
As I say I am sure this can be critiqued but let's be precise before pinging back to the confort zone...?
And as we happily get more specific (and to challenge my comfort zone that the lockdown was a nonsense) where is the data anywhere proving that the UK response has saved significant numbers of lives? |
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JK2006 |
I cannot say reasons Barney, BB and others; I have no knowledge at all. I add I also have no medical training whatsoever. All I do have is enormous experience of the media and I know they exaggerate and inflate everything (as do false accusers, police and lawyers). And common sense.
When this trivial virus started in Wuhan I examined the printed details and guessed - whether accurate or not - this could be nasty to me. I'm elderly and diabetic.
So I bought a mask (common sense told me it might make a small difference despite media & government calling them "worse than useless").
As it unfolded (and I self isolated) it seemed sensible in order to avoid catching it though I thought (and still believe) I got it in early March.
Like mild flu only with incredible hot night time fevers.
4-5 days of bed, paracetamol and liquid and I was right as rain.
Then watching the media panic so swiftly followed by global governmental panic, I concluded this was VERY infectious but only limited lethal.
I suspect things like lockdowns, testing and tracing might slightly lower the infection rate but do no more than have a tiny effect on the death count. Common sense, hygiene and, most of all, protecting and treating those in care homes, hospitals, prisons and refugee camps was the most vital need.
These finding, if correct, seem to confirm my theory. |
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wyot |
Yes sorry all that links to The Lancet article don't seem to work. But as you can see from JK's other links it is now gaining media traction.
I am sure the findings can be critiqued. This is not an attempt at a "gotcha" moment.
But what is positive is that at long last an actual debate can be had based on evidential analysis rather than discredited forecasting models and media manipulation.
Who knows maybe this will even be - ironically - the next big media story!
It is after all (and tragically) a GREAT story that all the ruin and deaths to come due to our lockdown didn't need to happen.
We shall await here with interest... |
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Barney |
JK2006 wrote:
“Government actions such as border closures, full lockdowns, and a high rate of COVID-19 testing were not associated with statistically significant reductions in the number of critical cases or overall mortality.”
Are not these very actions the reason we now have less infections and fewer deaths - in numerous countries - including here?
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Barney |
Links 2,3 and 4 don't seem to work.
The one that does confirms the study as one from 4 scientists from 3 countries - which seems less than conclusive.
Grey areas continue to exist - but the coranovirus obese/affluent category would explain the high levels of US infections.
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