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Topic History of: Carl Beech on TV
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JK2006 And the really important part which has nothing to do with Bonkers Carl; in their desire to rectify ignoring genuine rapes and abuse, police, media and bent lawyers have crossed the line and become enablers - encouraging & provoking claims in order to get great stories, budget increases, fat newspaper interview fees, promotion and compensation cash.

These are crimes. Not just attempting to pervert the course of justice.
JK2006 The delicious proof of this was Ted Heath and Nick's details about his sailing and conducting; all grabbed from online searches. All out of date; wrong periods.
Jo JK2006 wrote:
...the Internet has really helped criminals gather facts and details to make false claims seem credible...
I definitely think that happened in the Rolf Harris case. Tonya Lee, who gave an interview to Woman's Day magazine (one of her pre-trial paid interviews), which reported that she became "fixated on child sexual assault cases", suggesting that she'd been busy online, had a story, given in a paid TV interview in May 2013, uploaded immediately to YouTube, that had numerous points in common with an interview about alleged abuse by Jimmy Savile given seven months earlier to This Morning, uploaded immediately to YouTube, by Jimmy Savile's great niece (who according to the Daily Mail was considered by various family members, including her own daughter, to be lying and was subsequently investigated for fraud).

I think the online activity of accusers should be investigated as a matter of course, not just that of accusees.

When following Rolf Harris's 2014 trial in the media, I also noticed that the prosecution barrister had been using language to describe him that mirrored how Jimmy Savile had been described in media reports published online, e.g. "untouchable", "Jekyll and Hyde", "dark side" (source). RH accusers were also reported to have described him in court as a "dirty old man" and "octopus" with "hands everywhere". Interestingly, all these expressions are euphemisms, not specific but allowing the listener's/reader's imagination to do the work and think the worst.
JK2006 It really does seem that the majority simply cannot see Beech was just the tip of the iceberg. Most accusers exaggerate; some "assisted" by police or lawyers; some invent; some badly (Beech and the loony who claimed Cliff assaulted him at a Billy Graham rally); some deliberately (the Internet has really helped criminals gather facts and details to make false claims seem credible); some for profit, some for attention, sympathy, some out of genuine delusion often caused by drink or drugs or rejection.

Time to wake them up; if only for the thousands who were jailed, killed, had lives ruined, destroyed families yet were totally innocent.
Green Man Seems that the tossers (James mainly) on LBC pushed the agenda and of course (fake news) Guardian had to bring race to it. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/22/...-he-was-middle-class

Maybe Tom Watson and LBC staffers should be interviewed by the authorities for pushing this agenda. It's not only Carl Beech who put the accuser's in an early grave it's the media.


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