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Topic History of: A disgraceful TV show on Savile
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hedda |
Green Man wrote:
Chris wrote:
Johnny Ly-don is an extreme example of someone believing their own hype in the social media age whilst declaring to be above it all. Convinced he right about everything, another one-time voice of reason has become yet another Tin God on the strength of the good things he did artistically several decades ago, and now cannot see the wood for the trees. He's one of many, alas, but has taken it to extremes - see his recent court battle with his former band mates over using their music in a new Sex Pistols biopic, which has left him financially ruined (*apperantly) and he wasn't going to win in a million years, yet because he is always 'right' went ahead with anyway.
I once (ten years ago) saw him as laudible (as, in the case of his wife and her dementia, he is) but he has lost the plot, his one-thing-then-another self-angrandising over Jimmy Savile being just the tip of the iceberg.
I never got the punk thing, I was only a kid but it went very quick just like glam. Post-punk/New Wave went to heavy metal then that was phased out to what went to be grunge. Maybe Lydon is angry that he only made a small fortune on his music, I think he made more renting out housing property.
I know he was kicked out during a filming or a rehearsal the show Roseanne but wasn't it rumoured he was kicked out of Joni Mitchell's house ?
let me put to rest why Lydon was banned from the BBC for some time.
After one of their infamous interviews the band repaired to the BBC canteen whereupon Lydon abused and insulted 2 ladies working there apparently for not being fast enough, one who he callled an "ugly fat old cow".
I had much to do with Malcolm McLaren and the Pistols, oddly at first by collecting rent for the landlord at McLarens tiny office in the Soho.
Often the band members were there. McLaren was a charming & chatty sort of guy..Sid Vicious very polite and seemed fairly shy. The others were of their time and age..quite normal. But Lydon was just downright rude & seemed to think cheap insults were clever.
After the canteen manager complained Lydon was banned for a time but of course such bans don't last. He just isn't a nice person.
Last time I saw him was in Byron Bay in a packed club northern NSW when he did a show. Terribly overweight.
Karma has kicked in with Lydon...now repulsively fat and horrendously ugly. Hasn't been very clever in cashing in on such world-wide fame He and McLaren loathed each other but Malcolm was clever enough to exploit tha band. |
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robbiex wrote:
Back to the original topic of this Saville documentary. I didn't see it as I knew that it was going to be an unbalanced one-sided documentary, using emotive music and language to sensationalize every story and allegation. Most people on here must have known that before they watched it and no doubt when the new Steve Coogan drama comes out with Coogan showcasing his Saville impression with dark and eerie music in the background, I won't be watching that either. Mainly because I don't like allegations, and stories presented as facts. Some of them may well be facts, but only those involved really know. I'm sure people on here will be watching it, with keyboards at the ready, venting their anger in these pages. Please stop it and move on from Saville. It's ten years after his death and 9 years since the allegations surfaced via Mark Williams-Thomas. I urge everyone on here not to watch it because it will only make you angry.
I'm angry now. I don't want to watch it and wasn't going to until my cousin told me an actress (Gemma Jones) was playing my Grandma. She saw it on line and when I saw a photo of the filming I was devastated. Portraying SJS is bad enough but her is quite different. What next? My Mum? Me?
I can't not watch what they create with my Grandma as difficult as that will be. No-one has contacted us about this (though plenty have) I've tried to make contact with Gemma Jones's agent to point out the Co Durham accent my Grandma had as it's very likely that through poor research they'll have her with a Yorkshire accent. Why did I bother? Heaven knows - shock and horror I guess. |
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Green Man |
robbiex wrote:
Back to the original topic of this Saville documentary. I didn't see it as I knew that it was going to be an unbalanced one-sided documentary, using emotive music and language to sensationalize every story and allegation. Most people on here must have known that before they watched it and no doubt when the new Steve Coogan drama comes out with Coogan showcasing his Saville impression with dark and eerie music in the background, I won't be watching that either. Mainly because I don't like allegations, and stories presented as facts. Some of them may well be facts, but only those involved really know. I'm sure people on here will be watching it, with keyboards at the ready, venting their anger in these pages. Please stop it and move on from Saville. It's ten years after his death and 9 years since the allegations surfaced via Mark Williams-Thomas. I urge everyone on here not to watch it because it will only make you angry.
We have to believe "all women" and "their truth" according to the media and Oprah. I will never forget Oprah free car giveaway to her fans. Many had to return the cars back or ended up selling them privately, 7K is a lot of money to some people, if you watched Oprah the audience do look like they were working class or on welfare.
The Savile biopic will be a white-wash, like the Curse of Steptoe biopic they did which was 99% bullshit. |
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robbiex |
Back to the original topic of this Saville documentary. I didn't see it as I knew that it was going to be an unbalanced one-sided documentary, using emotive music and language to sensationalize every story and allegation. Most people on here must have known that before they watched it and no doubt when the new Steve Coogan drama comes out with Coogan showcasing his Saville impression with dark and eerie music in the background, I won't be watching that either. Mainly because I don't like allegations, and stories presented as facts. Some of them may well be facts, but only those involved really know. I'm sure people on here will be watching it, with keyboards at the ready, venting their anger in these pages. Please stop it and move on from Saville. It's ten years after his death and 9 years since the allegations surfaced via Mark Williams-Thomas. I urge everyone on here not to watch it because it will only make you angry. |
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Green Man |
Chris wrote:
Johnny Ly-don is an extreme example of someone believing their own hype in the social media age whilst declaring to be above it all. Convinced he right about everything, another one-time voice of reason has become yet another Tin God on the strength of the good things he did artistically several decades ago, and now cannot see the wood for the trees. He's one of many, alas, but has taken it to extremes - see his recent court battle with his former band mates over using their music in a new Sex Pistols biopic, which has left him financially ruined (*apperantly) and he wasn't going to win in a million years, yet because he is always 'right' went ahead with anyway.
I once (ten years ago) saw him as laudible (as, in the case of his wife and her dementia, he is) but he has lost the plot, his one-thing-then-another self-angrandising over Jimmy Savile being just the tip of the iceberg.
I never got the punk thing, I was only a kid but it went very quick just like glam. Post-punk/New Wave went to heavy metal then that was phased out to what went to be grunge. Maybe Lydon is angry that he only made a small fortune on his music, I think he made more renting out housing property.
I know he was kicked out during a filming or a rehearsal the show Roseanne but wasn't it rumoured he was kicked out of Joni Mitchell's house ? |
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