Inspired by the ghastly Mia Farrow stuff (see other threads) - it's interesting to see how great, simple ideas have been perverted and twisted into quite horrible areas. Just like traditional media. How wonderful were newspapers, radio, television, when they started. And how appalling certain aspects have become. Whilst other aspects remain superb.

I think the most interesting development in Internet novelty was My Space. So terrific when it started. So rapid its decline (co-inciding with takeover by the big boys, but not totally due to that).

I think it's like many things (music especially). Often superb initially (original, solely inspired by creative juices). Then boredom, habit, routing slides in. Very subtly, other influences remove the creative energy. Sustaining quality rather that making something. Money, drugs, family, ambitions, image, expansion... As the baby grows from being a cute teenager into getting older, spottier, fatter, heavier, experienced, greedy...

And so sites like Twitter (brilliant - only 140 characters; precis, slimmed down expression, allowing voices to the voiceless) become areas for the worst and most ill informed...

When I came out of prison, I found the Internet had changed from three and a half years earlier. You cannot get access to it inside prison (you sort-of can now). Inside, I had quickly found a way to put up posts and articles within seconds (using phones, outside board keepers, letters). Outside I found My Space and, after trawling through it for days, came across No Tomorrow by Orson, which then got picked up and broken and went to No1. But My Space started getting bogged down by success. You Tube started - I joined. It's going off (though the SEARCH engine is still great).

Spotify, streaming sites, other novelties - started, grew, declined...

It happens so fast these days.

But don't be surprised when they turn from brilliant ideas to ghastly breaches of morality within minutes.

JK2006 wrote:
Inspired by the ghastly Mia Farrow stuff (see other threads) - it's interesting to see how great, simple ideas have been perverted and twisted into quite horrible areas. Just like traditional media. How wonderful were newspapers, radio, television, when they started. And how appalling certain aspects have become. Whilst other aspects remain superb.

I think the most interesting development in Internet novelty was My Space. So terrific when it started. So rapid its decline (co-inciding with takeover by the big boys, but not totally due to that).

I think it's like many things (music especially). Often superb initially (original, solely inspired by creative juices). Then boredom, habit, routing slides in. Very subtly, other influences remove the creative energy. Sustaining quality rather that making something. Money, drugs, family, ambitions, image, expansion... As the baby grows from being a cute teenager into getting older, spottier, fatter, heavier, experienced, greedy...

And so sites like Twitter (brilliant - only 140 characters; precis, slimmed down expression, allowing voices to the voiceless) become areas for the worst and most ill informed...

When I came out of prison, I found the Internet had changed from three and a half years earlier. You cannot get access to it inside prison (you sort-of can now). Inside, I had quickly found a way to put up posts and articles within seconds (using phones, outside board keepers, letters). Outside I found My Space and, after trawling through it for days, came across No Tomorrow by Orson, which then got picked up and broken and went to No1. But My Space started getting bogged down by success. You Tube started - I joined. It's going off (though the SEARCH engine is still great).

Spotify, streaming sites, other novelties - started, grew, declined...

It happens so fast these days.

But don't be surprised when they turn from brilliant ideas to ghastly breaches of morality within minutes.

all very true and much 'social' media will end up as the digital version of tomorrow's fish wrappers.

there is an odd sort of democracy about the net but it is abused. It gives the gormless the insane, the mad and the vicious a voice along with the sane and the brilliant ( me-often gorgeous as well ) and the well meaning but deluded (ITK) a voice.

Like all democracies though, they inevitably crumble for some reason (mainly because most people will not listen to moi)

There seems to be two types of 'reality' nowadays - 'media' reality and 'true' reality.
Media reality has arisen because people seem to form their opinions entirely from the media, and not from personal experience. Judgements are made not from the facts, but from way the media present a story.
In my opinion, the very foundations of democracy are in danger as the 'mob' opinions are manipulated and manufactured by a few.

There's a Wikipedia campaign going on about you at the moment JK, saying stuff like you only produced one Brits and didn't get an Ivor Novello for Paloma Blanca. A hater is trying to denigrate anything yu've ever done.

JK2006 wrote:
Inspired by the ghastly Mia Farrow stuff (see other threads) - it's interesting to see how great, simple ideas have been perverted and twisted into quite horrible areas. Just like traditional media. How wonderful were newspapers, radio, television, when they started. And how appalling certain aspects have become. Whilst other aspects remain superb.

I think the most interesting development in Internet novelty was My Space. So terrific when it started. So rapid its decline (co-inciding with takeover by the big boys, but not totally due to that).

I think it's like many things (music especially). Often superb initially (original, solely inspired by creative juices). Then boredom, habit, routing slides in. Very subtly, other influences remove the creative energy. Sustaining quality rather that making something. Money, drugs, family, ambitions, image, expansion... As the baby grows from being a cute teenager into getting older, spottier, fatter, heavier, experienced, greedy...

And so sites like Twitter (brilliant - only 140 characters; precis, slimmed down expression, allowing voices to the voiceless) become areas for the worst and most ill informed...

When I came out of prison, I found the Internet had changed from three and a half years earlier. You cannot get access to it inside prison (you sort-of can now). Inside, I had quickly found a way to put up posts and articles within seconds (using phones, outside board keepers, letters). Outside I found My Space and, after trawling through it for days, came across No Tomorrow by Orson, which then got picked up and broken and went to No1. But My Space started getting bogged down by success. You Tube started - I joined. It's going off (though the SEARCH engine is still great).

Spotify, streaming sites, other novelties - started, grew, declined...

It happens so fast these days.

But don't be surprised when they turn from brilliant ideas to ghastly breaches of morality within minutes.

Is My Space still going ? Facebook is losing users due to they government and admin spying on users, it's still losing shares in the stock market, Twitter cures insomnia.

Gnomo wrote:
There seems to be two types of 'reality' nowadays - 'media' reality and 'true' reality.
Media reality has arisen because people seem to form their opinions entirely from the media, and not from personal experience. Judgements are made not from the facts, but from way the media present a story.
In my opinion, the very foundations of democracy are in danger as the 'mob' opinions are manipulated and manufactured by a few.

all very true but the internet is simply bizarre.

an entire subclass has arisen like nasty Chris Spiteful and David Sticky and that goose Bill Baloney or the very weird angryfan....they weave this vast web of conspiracy to rule the world that apparently has been going for 100s of years (but is would seem unsuccessfully) and site each other (or similar websites) as confirmation. Like a Round Robin firing squad of wackiness.

I find angirfan a real weirdy (why do I look ?) with his/her mad campaigns- the current about butterflies being a signal of the world-wide brain-washing of children that now seems to also encompass the Beckhams ( a lovely couple but first find the brain to wash ).

They all have things in common like siting some idiotic would-be Private Eye magazine Scallywag as the font of all wisdom.

Wikipedia is a great example of how a superb idea can go wrong; terrific concept swiftly subverted by negative people who either think it's funny to add insults or chip away at reputations by sneering or removing anything positive. Nothing anyone can do about it; eventually an editor with scruples moves in and clears up the vandalism whereupon, in time, more destruction will occur. Think how terrible it must be for articles about dead people. I see, searching for Oscar Wilde, the last edit was changing his middle name from O'Flahertie to O'FartieHartie. That sums up Wikipedia editors. As for whether or not I won an Ivor Novello Award, a simple call to BASCA should verify it. But, really, who cares?

Alexander wrote:
There's a Wikipedia campaign going on about you at the moment JK, saying stuff like you only produced one Brits and didn't get an Ivor Novello for Paloma Blanca. A hater is trying to denigrate anything yu've ever done.

someone kept posting on Alan Freeman's wiki entry the idiotic claims by MWT but I have relentlessly removed them.

but it confirms JK's view..

And a nice, intelligent, witty comment that sneaked through the You Tube block for my interview with Elton John back in 1986...


fuckin hell wot a fuckin Charlie Chester!!This guy should have his knackers cut off...Also wot an all time ugly muther FO..Tha ugly police should come fo J King too!