As I get older I tend to start to understand there are shades of grey to be answered in many questions and this topic is one of them. I used to be totally against it, seeing it as a dangerous way of disposing of those unable to demand protection from greedy relatives or lazy doctors. Now I tend to think there are many valid reasons to support it. Much praise to Carey for his brave intervention.

I too have always been concerned that this is an area that is very difficult to legislate.
Personally, I am against suicide, and hope I never reach a situation where I would contemplate it.
However, as you say JK, there are grey areas - and I would not condemn a person to pain and desperation at the end of their lives.
Providing legislation can be drafted that protects vulnerable people, and is based entirely on at least two independent Medical decisions, then so be it.

Gnomo wrote:
and I would not condemn a person to pain and desperation at the end of their lives.

... there are numerous treatments that can obliterate pain.

Most cancer sufferers die - not from cancer - but from the increasing doses of medication they are given.

Providing legislation can be drafted that protects vulnerable people, and is based entirely on at least two independent Medical decisions, then so be it.

... and how long before this is abused ?

Didn't it require two medical professionals to authorise abortion (because of the mothers health)?

Now its abortion on demand (because the child's birth clashes with the slut's latest holiday in Tenerife).

In The Know wrote:
Gnomo wrote:
and I would not condemn a person to pain and desperation at the end of their lives.

... there are numerous treatments that can obliterate pain.

Most cancer sufferers die - not from cancer - but from the increasing doses of medication they are given.

Providing legislation can be drafted that protects vulnerable people, and is based entirely on at least two independent Medical decisions, then so be it.

... and how long before this is abused ?

Didn't it require two medical professionals to authorise abortion (because of the mothers health)?

Now its abortion on demand (because the child's birth clashes with the slut's latest holiday in Tenerife).

Surely it's a breach of human rights to deny someone's right to die, it's portrayed well in Soylent Green.

In The Know wrote:
abortion on demand because the child's birth clashes with the slut's latest holiday in Tenerife


Different subject, but with the usual/mandatory bias


Assisted dying - should be legal

On certain conditions. The difficult thing is deciding what they are, and who makes the decision(s)

Like many conundrums ...is violence ever justified etc.

andrew wrote:
Surely it's a breach of human rights to deny someone's right to die


... and how many (desperate to get their hands on the cash?) will "encourage" their parents that the time has come ???

We should always protect the vulnerable.

(I understand that in Holland - where assisted killing was made legal - many now want the law reversed after some sensational instances)

In The Know (as always) wrote:
andrew wrote:
Surely it's a breach of human rights to deny someone's right to die


... and how many (desperate to get their hands on the cash?) will "encourage" their parents that the time has come ???

We should always protect the vulnerable.

(I understand that in Holland - where assisted killing was made legal - many now want the law reversed after some sensational instances)


We can already see how many people are slap-happy with others lives by the number of abortions, dogs whisked off for the one way trip to the vet the minute they need extra care, and the hoards of old people sent off to a miserable life of neglect in a home while their relatives pretend to us and themselves that it is "what they need"

In The Know (as always) wrote:
andrew wrote:
Surely it's a breach of human rights to deny someone's right to die


... and how many (desperate to get their hands on the cash?) will "encourage" their parents that the time has come ???

We should always protect the vulnerable.

(I understand that in Holland - where assisted killing was made legal - many now want the law reversed after some sensational instances)

Why it should be mandatory to draw up a will whilst in your 50's etc like parents did, my dad is not leaving anything to us he is giving all to charity.

Greedy siblings, partners and offspring should not be giving anything.

andrew wrote:
In The Know (as always) wrote:
andrew wrote:
Surely it's a breach of human rights to deny someone's right to die


... and how many (desperate to get their hands on the cash?) will "encourage" their parents that the time has come ???

We should always protect the vulnerable.

(I understand that in Holland - where assisted killing was made legal - many now want the law reversed after some sensational instances)

Why it should be mandatory to draw up a will whilst in your 50's etc like parents did, my dad is not leaving anything to us he is giving all to charity.

Greedy siblings, partners and offspring should not be giving anything.


I am sure nobody would ever think you are greedy, Andrew, and I hope and suspect that your Dad is pulling your leg.

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
andrew wrote:
In The Know (as always) wrote:
andrew wrote:
Surely it's a breach of human rights to deny someone's right to die


... and how many (desperate to get their hands on the cash?) will "encourage" their parents that the time has come ???

We should always protect the vulnerable.

(I understand that in Holland - where assisted killing was made legal - many now want the law reversed after some sensational instances)

Why it should be mandatory to draw up a will whilst in your 50's etc like parents did, my dad is not leaving anything to us he is giving all to charity.

Greedy siblings, partners and offspring should not be giving anything.


I am sure nobody would ever think you are greedy, Andrew, and I hope and suspect that your Dad is pulling your leg.

No he is not pulling my leg, dogs trust need it more than me.