The problem now appears to be so vast that a solution must be restructured. Either society needs to change laws or approach. Since we have passed the point where only doing something is a crime but thinking about doing it is a crime, we are in an entire different world. We need to get back to basics to construct society or else be prepared for a moral collapse. The basic and essential point about the article below is that real criminals are getting away with it whilst we concentrate on thought crime. If we are locking up people who think about committing a murder, police won't have time to arrest those who actually do it.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jul/16/...arrested-paedophilia

I don't understand. Why is this a thought crime? Unless the images are just drawings, they are of children being hurt and paying to see it is taking part in it.

Correct Honey - but people who may or may not be thinking of doing something are being prosecuted. Yes - they are committing a crime by looking at something (whether it be drawings, actors, photoshops, real people or whatever) - and that is the point. Society has now changed and "crimes" are different. Could reading a murder story now be a criminal act? Should it be - because the reader may be researching? Like would-be terrorists? It is, I believe, now a crime to read or download certain bomb literature. A brilliant novel, cunningly crafted to appear to be a handbook, might now get readers jailed.

We crossed a difficult line some time ago. Now I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing. Preventing terrorism, murder and child abuse is certainly a good thing. But if this is the way we do it, the only solution must surely be doubling the police force and the prison capacity. Or we need to rethink the basics - if we feel the funds to do it this way might be better used elsewhere.

How long before they become the "majority" and such offences, instead of being deviant, become "normal" ?

I assume the picture of two barely clad schoolgirls flashing flesh is illustrating the main story?

JK2006 wrote:
I assume the picture of two barely clad schoolgirls flashing flesh is illustrating the main story?


You couldn't make it up!

well spotted, JK !

We should also remember that these people are accused - and in most cases not convicted yet.

I'm also rather concerned about the "secret" tactics the police are using .... entrapment, maybe? Remember we only have the police version of events so far (and all police statements should come with a health warning).

We are also apparently about to be confronted by numerous "scandels" (like the paedos at Westminster) that the police did know about ... I wonder if this activity now is intended to counteract their failure to act previously (because the MP belonged to same lodge maybe?)

Interesting times ahead .........

In The Know wrote:
well spotted, JK !

We should also remember that these people are accused - and in most cases not convicted yet.

I'm also rather concerned about the "secret" tactics the police are using .... entrapment, maybe? Remember we only have the police version of events so far (and all police statements should come with a health warning).

We are also apparently about to be confronted by numerous "scandels" (like the paedos at Westminster) that the police did know about ... I wonder if this activity now is intended to counteract their failure to act previously (because the MP belonged to same lodge maybe?)

Interesting times ahead .........

I heard from one report that a lot (if not all) of these people were arrested due to accessing child pornography via the 'dark web' where you can do all sorts of dodgy activity secretly by downloading a special encryption software.

The wonderful Jim Gamble, who has made an entire career out of child abuse, was just on Radio Two talking as much sense as he always does.