"Almost all" the perpetrators were described by victims as being of Pakinstani origin, but the authorities "wanted to play down ethnic dimensions... for fear of being thought racist."
news.sky.com/story/1324952/horrific-case...d-abuse-in-rotherham

It's time to call a spade, a spade !

For too long some people (ie Jews) have hidden behind a screen that no one dare criticise for fear of being branded racist.

In The Know (as always) wrote:
"Almost all" the perpetrators were described by victims as being of Pakinstani origin, but the authorities "wanted to play down ethnic dimensions... for fear of being thought racist."
news.sky.com/story/1324952/horrific-case...d-abuse-in-rotherham

It's time to call a spade, a spade !

For too long some people (ie Jews) have hidden behind a screen that no one dare criticise for fear of being branded racist.

And of course a very strong argument to limit immigration from countries where the population will have trouble integrating into our society.

Pattaya wrote:
And of course a very strong argument to limit immigration from countries where the population will have trouble integrating into our society.

These were (mainly) British Pakistanis ... born here - NOT immigrants.

In The Know (as always) wrote:
some people (ie Jews) have hidden behind a screen


There were no screens in Dresden....

Or in so many other places

In The Know wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
And of course a very strong argument to limit immigration from countries where the population will have trouble integrating into our society.

These were (mainly) British Pakistanis ... born here - NOT immigrants.

Can ITK please come to Kent.

This is a very, very disturbing report. Given the fact that false allegations are encouraged by all investigators ("you will be believed") and that "victims" often exaggerate so as to make their involvement look less than voluntary, it still appears to be a monumental problem which surely must provoke a new assessment about society's attitude towards sexuality.

In The Know wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
And of course a very strong argument to limit immigration from countries where the population will have trouble integrating into our society.

These were (mainly) British Pakistanis ... born here - NOT immigrants.

Today's immigrants have children,who often bring wives/husbands over from Pakistan,then have more than the average number of children etc.
I lived in Bradford,saw this kind of thing go on,even reported a Paki pimp to the police for having an under-age girl on the game...nothing was done!

This proves more than ever that some immigrants,even second/third generation will not integrate well,while others like The Ugandan Asians who came here through no fault of their own have been a positive force for the better.

In The Know (as always) wrote:
"Almost all" the perpetrators were described by victims as being of Pakinstani origin, but the authorities "wanted to play down ethnic dimensions... for fear of being thought racist."
news.sky.com/story/1324952/horrific-case...d-abuse-in-rotherham

It's time to call a spade, a spade !

For too long some people (ie Jews) have hidden behind a screen that no one dare criticise for fear of being branded racist.

Amazing how much ITK can sound just like Farage.

andrew wrote:
In The Know wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
And of course a very strong argument to limit immigration from countries where the population will have trouble integrating into our society.

These were (mainly) British Pakistanis ... born here - NOT immigrants.

Can ITK please come to Kent.

Is it far from Bakewell?

I'm not really buying these exaggerated claims..yet... and just because people say "1400" doesn't make it true nor does an interview in the Mail or ITV with just one person.
Some things do not ring true- these are obviously people in the lowest economic cycle so when one 'victim' claims she was sent out of the country at age 15 ?? uhh?. She couldn't travel on her own..the cost of living abroad etc etc

or gangs waited outside her parents house after threatening to 'rape her mother'. Bizarre claims..who in the hell, let alone a young' gang' has the time or inclination to sit outside someone's house?. What for an hour, a day, all week?..a month?

hacks just print claims without asking even the simplest of questions.

and this bizarre reverse of the "you will be believed" mantra into "you won't be .." because the perps happen to be of a particular ethnic origin. When did that ever ever stop cops investigating?

I'm thinking of the recently retired judge who made the observation that when young women/girls stop getting plastered they may stop putting themselves in harm. Logic that cannot be argued with yet howls of indignation.

This is obviously a far more complicated situation with possibly lots of older teens, young adults re-writing history.

Afterall- the pattern has been set by Yewtree. A wayward youthful past can not only be re-jigged it's a way to riches.

I'm sure Slater & Gordon will setting up shop in Rotherham right now..wow..1400 plus new clients..at what, at least 100 grand each plus legal costs?

Rotherham ratepayers...weep

##meanwhile the hunt for Geoffrey Dicken's dossier listing the dozens of weekly child Satanic sacrifices goes on.

JK2006 wrote:
This is a very, very disturbing report. Given the fact that false allegations are encouraged by all investigators ("you will be believed") and that "victims" often exaggerate so as to make their involvement look less than voluntary, it still appears to be a monumental problem which surely must provoke a new assessment about society's attitude towards sexuality.

Yes ... hard to reconcile ... on the one hand "you will be believed" but then hundreds of allegations are swept under the carpet so as not to upset the ethnics !

Of course there have been dozens of similar cases - Rochdale / Derby / West Midlands (and these are the only ones with convictions !) - so the problem must be monumental.

They are nearly all children abandoned by their parents (to childrens homes etc). I wonder what percentage are "looking" for friendship / affection etc?

Pattaya wrote:
andrew wrote:
In The Know wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
And of course a very strong argument to limit immigration from countries where the population will have trouble integrating into our society.

These were (mainly) British Pakistanis ... born here - NOT immigrants.

Can ITK please come to Kent.

Is it far from Bakewell?

We all know ITK has is own jet.

hedda wrote:
I'm not really buying these exaggerated claims..yet... and just because people say "1400" doesn't make it true nor does an interview in the Mail or ITV with just one person.
Some things do not ring true- these are obviously people in the lowest economic cycle so when one 'victim' claims she was sent out of the country at age 15 ?? uhh?. She couldn't travel on her own..the cost of living abroad etc etc

or gangs waited outside her parents house after threatening to 'rape her mother'. Bizarre claims..who in the hell, let alone a young' gang' has the time or inclination to sit outside someone's house?. What for an hour, a day, all week?..a month?

hacks just print claims without asking even the simplest of questions.

and this bizarre reverse of the "you will be believed" mantra into "you won't be .." because the perps happen to be of a particular ethnic origin. When did that ever ever stop cops investigating?

I'm thinking of the recently retired judge who made the observation that when young women/girls stop getting plastered they may stop putting themselves in harm. Logic that cannot be argued with yet howls of indignation.

This is obviously a far more complicated situation with possibly lots of older teens, young adults re-writing history.

Afterall- the pattern has been set by Yewtree. A wayward youthful past can not only be re-jigged it's a way to riches.

I'm sure Slater & Gordon will setting up shop in Rotherham right now..wow..1400 plus new clients..at what, at least 100 grand each plus legal costs?

Rotherham ratepayers...weep

##meanwhile the hunt for Geoffrey Dicken's dossier listing the dozens of weekly child Satanic sacrifices goes on.

I'm sure the tabloids exaggerated here Hedda,it's a good story etc.
What is significant here is that the 'liberal' establishment made it harder for those of Asian origin to be stopped,when committing crimes of this nature.
I was there living in Bradford,and saw these type of gangs operate,and yes they were heavily involved in drugs and prostitution.I saw under-age girls pimped on Lumb Lane,by both blacks and asians,and saw the police feel helpless to act because of fear of being called racist.I also saw gangs of asians attacking the police at more than one 'mela',nothing was done for fear of racism here again.My own sister was also forced out of her teaching job in Birmingham because of asians wanting to turn government schools into all muslim affairs.

This is not about the Pakis behaviour,it's about our ability to cope with the effects of immigration.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2735194...told-raped-next.html

An update

'As a true Guardian reader, and liberal leftie, I didn't want to rock the multi-cultural boat says former Rotherham Labour MP Denis MacShane as he insists no-one raised town's child sex abuse scandal with him.'

We need to put a complete block on Paki immigration until the current lot can be seen to integrate into our society.Until that time we are just storing up more trouble for ourselves.

Pattaya wrote:
hedda wrote:
I'm not really buying these exaggerated claims..yet... and just because people say "1400" doesn't make it true nor does an interview in the Mail or ITV with just one person.
Some things do not ring true- these are obviously people in the lowest economic cycle so when one 'victim' claims she was sent out of the country at age 15 ?? uhh?. She couldn't travel on her own..the cost of living abroad etc etc

or gangs waited outside her parents house after threatening to 'rape her mother'. Bizarre claims..who in the hell, let alone a young' gang' has the time or inclination to sit outside someone's house?. What for an hour, a day, all week?..a month?

hacks just print claims without asking even the simplest of questions.

and this bizarre reverse of the "you will be believed" mantra into "you won't be .." because the perps happen to be of a particular ethnic origin. When did that ever ever stop cops investigating?

I'm thinking of the recently retired judge who made the observation that when young women/girls stop getting plastered they may stop putting themselves in harm. Logic that cannot be argued with yet howls of indignation.

This is obviously a far more complicated situation with possibly lots of older teens, young adults re-writing history.

Afterall- the pattern has been set by Yewtree. A wayward youthful past can not only be re-jigged it's a way to riches.

I'm sure Slater & Gordon will setting up shop in Rotherham right now..wow..1400 plus new clients..at what, at least 100 grand each plus legal costs?

Rotherham ratepayers...weep

##meanwhile the hunt for Geoffrey Dicken's dossier listing the dozens of weekly child Satanic sacrifices goes on.

I'm sure the tabloids exaggerated here Hedda,it's a good story etc.
What is significant here is that the 'liberal' establishment made it harder for those of Asian origin to be stopped,when committing crimes of this nature.
I was there living in Bradford,and saw these type of gangs operate,and yes they were heavily involved in drugs and prostitution.I saw under-age girls pimped on Lumb Lane,by both blacks and asians,and saw the police feel helpless to act because of fear of being called racist.I also saw gangs of asians attacking the police at more than one 'mela',nothing was done for fear of racism here again.My own sister was also forced out of her teaching job in Birmingham because of asians wanting to turn government schools into all muslim affairs.

This is not about the Pakis behaviour,it's about our ability to cope with the effects of immigration.

My girlfriend used to live in Bradford she has clarified everything you have said.

Also Muslims have taken over schools in Birmingham what has the Tory Mr Gove done about it ?Nothing. He has scrapped good U.S classic literature but kept Shakespeare which is pure shite.

andrew wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
andrew wrote:
In The Know wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
And of course a very strong argument to limit immigration from countries where the population will have trouble integrating into our society.

These were (mainly) British Pakistanis ... born here - NOT immigrants.

Can ITK please come to Kent.

Is it far from Bakewell?

We all know ITK has is own jet.

does he really? Jesus Christ I'm seeing him in a new light now

mates rates fares for family members ITK ?