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#12175
In The Know

Saddam verdict due ............. 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
The lynching, err, sorry ... "trial" of Saddam Hussein is due to give its verdict tomorrow (Sun).

Any guesses anyone?

How can a country which cannot run a police force, control sewage, run a proper power supply, and whose "government" cannot (dare not) leave their protected zone, run a proper legal system????

This "trial" has had FIVE Judges so far !!!!!!!!

Brace yourself, Iraq !
 
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#12176
I'm SO with you ITK.... 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
Justice these days is TOTALLY run by the media which is frightening.

But we only have ourselves to blame. We created it.

Caricatures run better than truth. Headlines are easier to read than stories.

Because we have all become emotionally and intellectually lazy, we allow the most horrendous breaches of human rights.

Not least being our right to exist as a species. Which is eroding so rapidly I suspect the Human Race will expire before I do.
 
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#12177
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Is it just a co-incidence ..... 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
that the "verdict" is delivered just 2 days before the US mid-term elections (which looks like seeing the incumbent Republicans get slaughtered)?
 
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#12179
Re:Is it just a co-incidence ..... 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
How terribly cynical of you... I'm shocked you could think such a thing!

Did that come across as sarcasm? I do hope so

Seriously, it's a dicey strategy since it focuses the short attention span of the American electorate back on Iraq... and they may just notice that it's been a monstrous fuck up.

If the US focusses on alternative energy resources, they'd be self sufficient with in 5 years...They seem to like being beholden to Arabs...

And JK, I'm with you on the end of the hairless apes... I spend more and more time resenting the fact I share a species with most of the people I meet...
 
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#12193
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I see 4 military papers called from Rumsfeld to resign ! 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
<<< Iraq's prime minister has said he hopes Saddam Hussein gets what he deserves for "crimes against the Iraqi people", ahead of Sunday's expected verdict.
In a televised message urging calm, Nouri Maliki said Iraqis should mark the verdict in a way that "does not risk their lives". >>>

<<< Former Pentagon adviser Richard Perle, who was originally in favour of the invasion, has said US policy in Iraq has turned into a disaster.

He told Vanity Fair magazine that if he had been able to see how the war would develop, he probably would not have advocated the invasion to depose Saddam.

Four military newspapers, meanwhile, are calling for the defence secretary to resign.

The Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times and Marine Corps Times said Donald Rumsfeld had lost credibility with the uniformed leadership.

"His strategy has failed, and his ability to lead is compromised," they say in an editorial due to be published on Monday.

"And although the blame for our failures in Iraq rests with the secretary, it will be the troops who bear its brunt." >>>

taken from BBC News -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6117044.stm

(When Richard Perle - one of the architects of PNAC - turns against them - they are really in trouble !)
 
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#12220
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Saddam sentenced to death - now there's a surprise !!!!!!!!!! 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
I wonder what happens to people who closely associated with him in the 80's .... people like Donald Rumsfeldt ?
 
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#12222
VENGEANCE: Saddam and the death penalty... 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
I know nothing about Saddam except what I've seen in the media and I know - being in it - that we have no morality when it comes to truth; the media simply looks for ratings, circulation, sales, profits...

But even if Saddam is the Devil himself I cannot ever understand the logic that says "the worst crime in the world is to kill someone so we must kill people who do it".

To me the logic is as bizarre as saying green is red.

But those who believe in the death penalty are as certain as I am that it is fine to kill someone under those circumstances.

I really do find it incomprehensible.
 
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#12226
Al

I wonder if Bush & Blair can explain the difference. 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
When there was an insurgency against Saddam's government, Saddam gave orders that they be put down using deadly force. Result, thousands killed.

When there are insurgencies in todays Iraq, Bush & Blair give orders that they be put down using deadly force. Result thousands killed.

Saddam's forces tortured people in prisons.

Bush & Blair's forces torture people in prisons.

Saddam is given the death penalty.

Bush & Blair remain leaders of supposedly advanced civilised nations.
 
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#12230
Re:VENGEANCE: Saddam and the death penalty... 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
Mockery of any judicial system. A vast waste of money and time and something tells me he'll end up dying of "natural causes" in a prison hospital bed anyway.
Who's up next for trial? Blair? Bush?
 
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#12233
Re:Saddam sentenced to death - now there's a surprise !!!!!!!!!! 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
I pondered that...

I'm also waiting to hear that Fox are going to simulcast it primetime....
 
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#12240
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Re:Saddam sentenced to death - now there's a surprise !!!!!!!!!! 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
<<< I'm also waiting to hear that Fox are going to simulcast it primetime....>>>

They'll probably have to buy the rights from Halliburton Corp !
Dodgy Dick never misses a trick !
 
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#12241
In The Know

talk about "foaming at the mouth" !!!! 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
Sky News are currently running 31 separate stories about Saddam Husseinon their homepage !

http://news.sky.com/skynews/home

I think the editor has had an orgasm !
 
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#12242
Celebration over verdict 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
How sick can you get? Celebrating a man's death sentence.

This species sickens me.
 
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#12245
Re:Saddam sentenced to death - now there's a surprise !!!!!!!!!! 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
I'm begining to wonder if Halliburton will be to Iraq what Shell is to Nigeria...
 
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#12249
Re:I wonder if Bush & Blair can explain the difference. 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
I'm beginning to think that Saddam was doped during the trial...

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6116884.stm

If he had persisted in attacking the questionable legal basis of the US-led invasion he would probably have had much more impact.

But there has always been a rambling, inconsequential element to his speeches, as though the experience of being overthrown had somehow affected his intellect.

Emphasis mine...

and the US observers are pretty unhappy with things

'Trial flawed'

Many critics have dismissed the trial as a form of victors' justice, given the close attention the US has paid to it.

Before the sentencing session began, former US Attorney General Ramsey Clark was ejected from the courtroom after handing the judge a note in which he called the trial a "travesty".

Saddam Hussein's defence team have also accused the government of interfering in the proceedings - a complaint backed by US group Human Rights Watch.

The process was marked by frequent interruptions by defendants and their lawyers and problems with security.

The first judge assigned to preside over the case, Rizgar Amin, resigned after complaining of government interference and three defence lawyers were assassinated.

And the former leader's lawyers have attacked the timing of the planned verdict, which comes days before the US votes in mid-term elections.

Mr Bush's Republican Party is at risk of losing control of Congress, in part because of voter dissatisfaction over its handling of the Iraq conflict.


I quote those pieces since they have a nasty habit of disappearing...
 
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#12250
Re:VENGEANCE: Saddam and the death penalty... 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
Who's up next for trial? Blair? Bush?

Satan will be skating to work and complaining of the nip in the air before that happens...
 
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#12251
Re:Celebration over verdict 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
I am not opposed to Capital Punishment per se... but... I do find the gloating sickens me.

If we are to do such a thing it should be done with regret.

As for Saddam, I think the authorities would have prefered him just dead when they found him with no trial. It's simply made a bad situation worse.

Frederick Forsyth, the author, delighted in asking anti-war people if they'd prefer if Sadam had remained. I can now say in all sincerity; Yes Mr Forsyth
 
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#12256
Re:talk about 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:
Sky News are currently running 31 separate stories about Saddam Husseinon their homepage !

http://news.sky.com/skynews/home

I think the editor has had an orgasm !


Just splooge that keyboard scum-boy! I do loathe Sky News... I remember Jeremy Thompson back when he was a proper journalist...
 
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#12336
Re:VENGEANCE: Saddam and the death penalty... 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
And they're trying him again... what are they going to do? Quarter him?

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6123526.stm
 
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#12346
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B&B's exit plan ! 17 Years, 5 Months ago  
What they are planning, Grandpa, is a mock execution.

Then, the "body" will be whisked away by the CIA (probably to one of those secret torture centres that "don't exist") where he'll have extensive facial reconstruction.

He'll then be taken back to Iraq and unveiled as the new Iraqi PM .... and low and behold, Bush and Blair will then have an exit strategy !!!!!!
 
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