It takes a decent politician (Corbyn) to find this out and urge stopping it.

... only CorbynTrot could find even more ways to waste money !

Its five years since Universal Credit was first announced -
and you can bet these dolers have done absolutely nothing to find out about it
(despite ALL having shiny new phones bought from their dole money).

There is plenty of FREE info on the website, and every library will have information.

In The Know wrote:
... only CorbynTrot could find even more ways to waste money !

Its five years since Universal Credit was first announced -
and you can bet these dolers have done absolutely nothing to find out about it
(despite ALL having shiny new phones bought from their dole money).

There is plenty of FREE info on the website, and every library will have information.

No, its always been the same, with the old system too, and you can not make a claim unless you have a phone or computer, even if you walk into their offices asking for help.
It is sickening.

They have a coach to help you set up UC online.

I remember once hearing that you will need a mobile phone, the work coach pulled Caroline Warehouse website and the claimant said I only do smartphones.

The phone numbers for DWP have never been free and why will they?

Halting UC will cost more.

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:

No, its always been the same, with the old system too, and you can not make a claim unless you have a phone or computer, even if you walk into their offices asking for help.
It is sickening.

No honey! .... Us being constantly drained by those who do nothing to help themselves is sickening !

They ALL have smartphones .... EVERY library in the UK offers free computers

They are BONE IDLE

In The Know wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:

No, its always been the same, with the old system too, and you can not make a claim unless you have a phone or computer, even if you walk into their offices asking for help.
It is sickening.

No honey! .... Us being constantly drained by those who do nothing to help themselves is sickening !

They ALL have smartphones .... EVERY library in the UK offers free computers

They are BONE IDLE

Do they still pay for PPE ?

In The Know wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:

No, its always been the same, with the old system too, and you can not make a claim unless you have a phone or computer, even if you walk into their offices asking for help.
It is sickening.

No honey! .... Us being constantly drained by those who do nothing to help themselves is sickening !

They ALL have smartphones .... EVERY library in the UK offers free computers

They are BONE IDLE

But I keep telling you... They have to have the phones to be able to sign on.
They cant claim otherwise. It is hardly helpful to people with no money, is it?

You cant even sit at a computer in a library all day.(if you have any left near you) There are huge queues and if you can get on a computer your time allowed is not enough to apply for all the jobs you are supposed to each day.
And they charge you to use them, so if somebody really is destitute, they are buggered.


I absolutely agree with you that there is a certain type who have no intention of working at all, and somehow end up having more money than those of us paying for them. It is barmy and needs sorting out, But there are many who are in desperate need through no fault of their own and it is very wrong to kick them when they are down.

andrew wrote:
In The Know wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:

No, its always been the same, with the old system too, and you can not make a claim unless you have a phone or computer, even if you walk into their offices asking for help.
It is sickening.

No honey! .... Us being constantly drained by those who do nothing to help themselves is sickening !

They ALL have smartphones .... EVERY library in the UK offers free computers

They are BONE IDLE

Do they still pay for PPE ?

Safety equipment? For libraries? Some of them are a bit rough but I wouldn't go that far! (with the exception of Walton )

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
But I keep telling you... They have to have the phones to be able to sign on.
They cant claim otherwise. It is hardly helpful to people with no money, is it?

My mobile - with unlimited minutes - probably costs less per month than what they spend on burgers / chips in a couple of days.

In The Know wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
But I keep telling you... They have to have the phones to be able to sign on.
They cant claim otherwise. It is hardly helpful to people with no money, is it?

My mobile - with unlimited minutes - probably costs less per month than what they spend on burgers / chips in a couple of days.


I am sure it is, but the point is that if you are actually penniless and without a phone, credit or computer you have to stay that way. That cant be right.
I sometimes come across people who have literally left a home with just the clothes they stand in.
Surely they are the very people who are most deserving?

Computer use - and membership - is free in libraries, and widely available.

Many are in great demand from foreign nationals communicating with home, on Skype.

I understand the online forms have a 'chat' option for advice.

Call centres/web sites for virtually everything are becoming the norm.


Video conferencing with your doctor - on routine ailments - are not far away.

Spee32HR wrote:
Computer use - and membership - is free in libraries, and widely available.



For those that still exist.

www.publiclibrariesnews.com/about-public...ies-news/news-topics

There are about 4,000 public liabraries in the UK - with 280 million annual costs.

Still easy to find, but admittedly, declining; the busiest section is usually the free internet.

Join the club, I must say that I never had any problems with UC, apart from they didn't pay housing element and first but was quickly solved.

www.theguardian.com/society/2017/oct/08/...versal-credit-delays