honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
It says "Over 3.4 million disabled people are in employment". How would they know? If you are in work you probably aren't claiming.

You really believe that do you ???

In The Know wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
It says "Over 3.4 million disabled people are in employment". How would they know? If you are in work you probably aren't claiming.

You really believe that do you ???


Aren't the benefits very limited for people who can work? Anyway, I know plenty of people who could claim but dont. (and some who shouldn't but do)


Anyone can see that car parks overestimate the amount of disabled people because they have row and rows of spaces for them and only one or two are in use.

Thats what I would like to know - the real scroungers are in government and of course lets not forget the tax evaders/avoiders - I think HMRC have ignored them for far too long!

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
In The Know wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
It says "Over 3.4 million disabled people are in employment". How would they know? If you are in work you probably aren't claiming.

You really believe that do you ???


Aren't the benefits very limited for people who can work? Anyway, I know plenty of people who could claim but dont. (and some who shouldn't but do)


Anyone can see that car parks overestimate the amount of disabled people because they have row and rows of spaces for them and only one or two are in use.

ITK won't give you a proper answer Honey, even if someone is psychically disabled to work and got certificates, he would want them begging on the streets.

I still can't see what they issues are for waiting 6 weeks for payment.

I remember waiting a little when I made my first JSA claim years ago.

andrew wrote:
I still can't see what they issues are for waiting 6 weeks for payment.

I remember waiting a little when I made my first JSA claim years ago.

No one else can, either ... you have to work to get your first months salary - this should be exactly the same.

andrew wrote:
I still can't see what they issues are for waiting 6 weeks for payment.

I remember waiting a little when I made my first JSA claim years ago.

Presumably, you had been working up until the claim so you would have had money saved, and your last wages.
Its quite different if you have been on benefits for a long time and then they are suddenly stopped because of the change to universal credit.

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
Presumably, you had been working up until the claim so you would have had money saved, and your last wages.
Its quite different if you have been on benefits for a long time and then they are suddenly stopped because of the change to universal credit.


... AFTER you had had several years' notice that it was coming along !

In The Know wrote:
andrew wrote:
I still can't see what they issues are for waiting 6 weeks for payment.

I remember waiting a little when I made my first JSA claim years ago.

No one else can, either ... you have to work to get your first months salary - this should be exactly the same.

Except it can drag on for three and a half months.
You can claim something to tide you over when you start a job, but this isn't available for people in-between jobseekers and universal credit.

What exactly should people who are penniless do for the six or more weeks?

In The Know wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
Presumably, you had been working up until the claim so you would have had money saved, and your last wages.
Its quite different if you have been on benefits for a long time and then they are suddenly stopped because of the change to universal credit.


... AFTER you had had several years' notice that it was coming along !

If the money you get doesn't even stretch to the basics you cant put money aside.

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
In The Know wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
Presumably, you had been working up until the claim so you would have had money saved, and your last wages.
Its quite different if you have been on benefits for a long time and then they are suddenly stopped because of the change to universal credit.


... AFTER you had had several years' notice that it was coming along !

If the money you get doesn't even stretch to the basics you cant put money aside.

Funny how some people can cope and budget and others can't.

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
In The Know wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
Presumably, you had been working up until the claim so you would have had money saved, and your last wages.
Its quite different if you have been on benefits for a long time and then they are suddenly stopped because of the change to universal credit.


... AFTER you had had several years' notice that it was coming along !

If the money you get doesn't even stretch to the basics you cant put money aside.

Well this woman should cancel her TV. www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/im-poor-ca...-afford-11375629.amp

she says "I ended up accumulating arrears through no fault of my own."

then whose bloody fault is it ???

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
If the money you get doesn't even stretch to the basics you cant put money aside.

It does. Millions manage quite well (and some even go on holiday out of it !)

It may surprise you to know, that never once have I stepped over a body in the street.

I've never seen people starving to death in the park.

They all live in charity shops ... they all live in Poundland.

I've not see queues outside job centres either ... lol !

Perhaps ...by basics .... you mean Sky TV, mobile phones, cars, scratchcards, visits to bingo, lottery tickets etc ?

In The Know wrote:
she says "I ended up accumulating arrears through no fault of my own."

then whose bloody fault is it ???

Some people are generally too ill to work but getting in debt is easy to avoid on benefits.

On carers allowance and on joint UC and missus gets her DLA. We just get by each month with planning and care budgeting. We have no broadband or a Sky or cable package.

As ITK says live within your means and make your own meals.

Your answer Andrew illustrates the bigger problem these days - superficialisation and simplification. I think that is exactly why Universal Credit is in trouble. It is a policy aimed at one section of those needing benefit; blind to all the varieties of individuals. Some can cope; some can't. Some need benefits urgently; others can use savings. Policies which fail to spot potential ramifications and do not put safety nets in place are often disastrous.

In The Know wrote:
she says "I ended up accumulating arrears through no fault of my own."

then whose bloody fault is it ???

The fault of idiots who stop paying the rent, the idiots who take so long to pay the benefit that people get overdrawn and have huge charges to pay, the idiots who stop benefits so people cant pay electricity and gas bills and are forced to have pay as you go metres fitted on the threat of being cut off, and then have to pay DOUBLE the price that you do!
It costs more money to be poor than rich.

It seems to me that the wonder is how very poor people ever manage to keep out of debt.

In The Know wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
If the money you get doesn't even stretch to the basics you cant put money aside.

It does. Millions manage quite well (and some even go on holiday out of it !)

It may surprise you to know, that never once have I stepped over a body in the street.

I've never seen people starving to death in the park.

They all live in charity shops ... they all live in Poundland.

I've not see queues outside job centres either ... lol !

Perhaps ...by basics .... you mean Sky TV, mobile phones, cars, scratchcards, visits to bingo, lottery tickets etc ?


No. I mean things like food, heat and light. Not everyone on benefits gets the same.
Some have enough for goats and ponies, but others have nothing.

andrew wrote:
In The Know wrote:
she says "I ended up accumulating arrears through no fault of my own."

then whose bloody fault is it ???

Some people are generally too ill to work but getting in debt is easy to avoid on benefits.

On carers allowance and on joint UC and missus gets her DLA. We just get by each month with planning and care budgeting. We have no broadband or a Sky or cable package.

As ITK says live within your means and make your own meals.

With respect, Andrew, you get a hell of a lot more if somebody in the household has disability benefit.
You say you are "getting by" at the moment. Imagine if you had less than half the amount and without budgeting and cookery skills?