In The Know wrote:
news.sky.com/story/ugly-scenes-as-pitch-...-to-burnley-11284827

Looking at the large numbers of police and horses outside Everton football ground yesterday, I was wondering what percentage of the cost for that comes from tax payers.
I know the club pays some, but how much?

Not enough !

The disuption to town centres etc is enormous ... and probably costs local businesses (those that have not boarded-up) millions as genuine customers stay away.

In The Know wrote:
Not enough !

The disuption to town centres etc is enormous ... and probably costs local businesses (those that have not boarded-up) millions as genuine customers stay away.

Yes, we try our best to avoid the area on Saturday,even though it is normally somewhere I like to go shopping. (a couple of miles of proper shops on a street)


They have clashed a home game with the upcoming Grand National this time, and the police say they cant cope.

The police would have been consulted about the 'clash'.

Are sporting events, concerts, church services really 'disruption' ?

Millions of us choose to attend them as part of our lives.

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
Yes, we try our best to avoid the area on Saturday,even though it is normally somewhere I like to go shopping. (a couple of miles of proper shops on a street)

They have clashed a home game with the upcoming Grand National this time, and the police say they cant cope.

Issue machine guns !!!!

In The Know wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
Yes, we try our best to avoid the area on Saturday,even though it is normally somewhere I like to go shopping. (a couple of miles of proper shops on a street)

They have clashed a home game with the upcoming Grand National this time, and the police say they cant cope.

Issue machine guns !!!!

You would still moan.

even more lunacy !

Football match halted as club owner takes gun on to the pitch
news.sky.com/story/football-match-halted...o-the-pitch-11287047

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
They have clashed a home game with the upcoming Grand National this time, and the police say they cant cope

The Liverpool FC home game is a late kick-off on the day of the Grand National which will have concluded, when it starts.

... and again -


The former England player told Sky News he would like to meet face-to-face
with the family he spat at and apologise to them again.
news.sky.com/story/jamie-carragher-suspe...ng-incident-11287245

In The Know wrote:
... and again -


The former England player told Sky News he would like to meet face-to-face
with the family he spat at and apologise to them again.
news.sky.com/story/jamie-carragher-suspe...ng-incident-11287245

Jamie has always been a hot head, as well a shitty footballer.

Spee wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
They have clashed a home game with the upcoming Grand National this time, and the police say they cant cope

The Liverpool FC home game is a late kick-off on the day of the Grand National which will have concluded, when it starts.




It is only a fifteen minute difference. The crowds for both cause terrible problems and its a double whammy because it is the same road for both events.

They have got extra police (on double pay) and I am sure they will do a grand job of crowd control, as usual, but it seems a bit daft to make the job harder than it needs to be, and inconvenience more people for longer.

Your MP, Council and police have all been consulted - drop them a line?


JK lives near that huge west London music festival; maybe that should be cancelled too...

Spee wrote:
Your MP, Council and police have all been consulted - drop them a line?


JK lives near that huge west London music festival; maybe that should be cancelled too...




Nobody is suggesting that anything should be cancelled, Spee, just that kickoff is moved a bit so people can get home without it being an ordeal.
It doesnt look good for the city if people come and then have to sit hours in their car or not be able to get the train!

Its hardly worth arguing about though.

andrew wrote:
In The Know wrote:
... and again -


The former England player told Sky News he would like to meet face-to-face
with the family he spat at and apologise to them again.
news.sky.com/story/jamie-carragher-suspe...ng-incident-11287245

Jamie has always been a hot head, as well a shitty footballer.

He cant be that bad, surely?

Over reacting again but then - it is a good story, innit, and that's all that matters to the media.

I've no sympathy for people who set out to provoke other people. If you poke someone with a sharp stick, don't go crying to the papers when they react more aggressively than you expected. Is it years of sitting on a couch, saying what one likes about people on the screen, that makes them think they can do the same when the people are actually in front of you? Or is it years of tapping insults on a computer that has the same effect? The person who deserves vilification here is the idiot father who thinks he can hide behind 'banter' when things backfire. I bet he'll feel so deflated once this story dies he'll have to haul his daughter back out to wind up another celeb, so that he can belatedly get outraged again. Absolutely pathetic.

Largely agree - but what he should have done was point out that even if his team had lost he would still be picking up thousands and thousands in wages that week - whereas the other person would be scraping up enough to pay for an entrance ticket for the next match !

Nothing like putting things into perspective.

Ray wrote:
I've no sympathy for people who set out to provoke other people. If you poke someone with a sharp stick, don't go crying to the papers when they react more aggressively than you expected. Is it years of sitting on a couch, saying what one likes about people on the screen, that makes them think they can do the same when the people are actually in front of you? Or is it years of tapping insults on a computer that has the same effect? The person who deserves vilification here is the idiot father who thinks he can hide behind 'banter' when things backfire. I bet he'll feel so deflated once this story dies he'll have to haul his daughter back out to wind up another celeb, so that he can belatedly get outraged again. Absolutely pathetic.

A two finger salute would have sufficed.

Them fictional military grade guns would be sufficient...the ones that ITK believes that any Yank can get their paws on.