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#175957
corporal hedda

who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
Those salivating over a (useless) $300M bomb drop on what could have been an empty factory, perhaps don't even know who the enemy is in this latest fiasco.

The Pentagon liaised with Russia (to avoid Russian casualties) as they did last year as they spent around $100M blowing up an empty Syrian airfield, perhaps pretending to themselves the Russians would not alert the Syrian army as to where the attack would take place.

# is this the new style of way to conduct war? You liaise with the enemy over all battles? A video game?

The Syrian conflict is a Civil War. Apart from Syrian rebels who have a deserved hatred for the Assad regime, they are now propped up and supported by ISIL and Al Qaeda.

So the Colonel Blimps are cheering on the most evil of recent horrific murderers, ISIL & Al Qaeda ( backed with US/UK weaponry) for some bizarre reason.

And ignoring the lessons of Iraq and now Libya where we removed dictators (who at least held the region together) and opened up those countries for mass slaughter of innocent civilians ( no dramatic pictures for TV here of children being killed so who cares?) and even further conflicts which we will get drawn into.

## well not this time as Assad has almost succeeded and has Russia on it's side (who now have China announcing they would support Russia in any conflict)

# rumours Sgt Major Theresa May has done a Thatcher because of upcoming council elections are greatly exaggerated.

Robert Fisk- the most accurate of Middle East reporters describes how ISIL murdered 120 captured Syrian Army conscripts- that's Syrians fighting in their own country.

Executing captured enemy is a serious war crime but these are new days. Our moralizing after WW2 at the savagery of the NAZIs is no longer valid. Today we back those who commit war crimes, and sometimes join in.

Meanwhile about 25% of Brits support the bombing of Syria.(don't forget to vote in your local council election)

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-...ilians-a8306226.html
 
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#175963
In The Know

Re:who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
The REAL enemy is people like YOU !
The enemy within !

Those who will never face facts ... who always blame eeryone else ... but when it all goes wrong will be the first to say "why did you not do something"?

Lets look at his delusional madness.
He says "opened up those countries for mass slaughter of innocent civilians" - completely oblivious to the fact that Assad has already slaughtered half a million of his own people ... in a cycnical act not dissimilar to Hitler.

The Commie Corbyns of this world are just like the Red Ken's of the 70s - here to cause trouble, and nothing else.
They are already working on ways to heap Zillions of pounds of debt on your grandchildren and great-grandchildren !

Now if you continue to post such rubbish I'm going to phone an Australian TV station and tell them its you who is starting these fires in Sydney !

Don't forget to vote in the local elections !

Labour - if you want to subsidise creches for black lesbian unmarried mothers (and other ways of pouring money down the drain),
or Tory if you want a properly run and funded Council (with NO borrowing and NO interest / debt !)
 
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#175966
Spee

Re:who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
No borrowing and no interest?


www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk


Only £2 trillion plus!



 
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#175970
comrade hedda

Re:who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
Colonel Blimp still prefers Jingoistic claptrap.

Perhaps in the old days he would have handed out white feathers (my father received one even though he was working in finance for the WW2 war effort and was exempted from service but was in "Dad's Army")

Maybe Blimp would have received one seeing he's happy to beat the war drums but not actually participate himself.
 
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#175973
Citizen Hedda

Re:who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
Spee wrote:
No borrowing and no interest?


www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk


Only £2 trillion plus!




 
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#176021
In The Know

Re:who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
He STILL thinks Labour's debt disappeared when they left office !

Unbelieveable !
 
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#176022
In The Know

Re:who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
comrade hedda wrote:
Perhaps in the old days he would have handed out white feathers (my father received one

All starting to make sense !

A MAD wino grandmother !

A YELLOW father !

No wonder he turned into a RED LOONY !

I wonder if all this contributed to the cross-dressing?
Or whether that was another little accident in the shower-room?
 
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#176023
Re:who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:
comrade hedda wrote:
Perhaps in the old days he would have handed out white feathers (my father received one

All starting to make sense !

A MAD wino grandmother !

A YELLOW father !

No wonder he turned into a RED LOONY !

I wonder if all this contributed to the cross-dressing?
Or whether that was another little accident in the shower-room?


Hedda has just explained that his father was not shirking his duty.
 
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#176025
Spee

Re:who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:
He STILL thinks Labour's debt disappeared when they left office !

Unbelieveable !



Yes totally - that:-

1. you ignore the Debt left by the Tories

2. have no idea how much the Tories or Labour left

3. it's impossible for you to acknowledge the National Debt has more than doubled in the last 8 years


PLEASE DISPUTE
 
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#176026
Spee

Is this figure wrong - doubled in 8 years? 3 Months ago  
All because of Labour's debt?


www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk


The vast majority created under Tory governments


 
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#176027
wyot

Re:who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
ITK, you really are being a bit of a cock you know...
 
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#176035
hedda

Re:who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
we need an emergency ambulance on stand-by.
Colonel Blimp could have a stroke at any moment.
 
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#176051
In The Know

Re:who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
wyot wrote:
ITK, you really are being a bit of a cock you know...

are you another one who cannot work out compound interest?

.... that cannot figure that Labour's debts never went away?

.... that does not understand that as we STILL have to borrow money each and every month - to fulfil our debt repayments (left behind by Labour) - that the overal debt continues to rise ???
 
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#176054
Spee

Re:who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
But why completely ignore the Debt left by the Tories?


 
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#176060
PB

Re:who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
Spee wrote:
But why completely ignore the Debt left by the Tories?

Because it is (was) relatively insignificant?

In 1997 the Labour party adopted Tory spending plans (the only way to give them any credibility and get them elected) and so, for the next three years all was well.

Since 2000 the country has borrowed each and every month to "prop-up" promises that are not funded, plus ever-rising interest payments, hence the accumulated national debt total now.

Its also significant that without the massive reduction in spending by the Tories (the so called "cuts") the national debt would be almost twice as much.
 
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#176064
Spee

Re:who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
Relatively insignificant at over £350 billion?!

And you forget that the Tories haven't had a budget surplus for about 40 years.


Unlike Labour...


 
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#176089
Spee

Re:who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
The £350+ billion figure equates to £500 billion now!

ITK's response is consistent - 'lol !' - as he is unable to Google the facts.

Like the National Debt increasing by over 100% since Tory controlled governments returned 8 years ago.

Precipitating the largest National Debt ever; the speed of increase is also record-breaking.

£2 trillion or abouts - and most borrowed by the Tories.


Kindly confirm the figures to Derbyshire - after verification....


 
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#176092
Spee

Re:who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
When the Tories came back in 2010 - the Debt was less than half this...


www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk


Most worryingly, it continues to grow at an even faster rate...


"we're still paying back Labour's debt - just don't wash"



 
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#176117
In The Know

Re:who is actually the enemy here? 3 Months ago  
PB wrote:
Spee wrote:
But why completely ignore the Debt left by the Tories?

Because it is (was) relatively insignificant?

In 1997 the Labour party adopted Tory spending plans (the only way to give them any credibility and get them elected) and so, for the next three years all was well.

Since 2000 the country has borrowed each and every month to "prop-up" promises that are not funded, plus ever-rising interest payments, hence the accumulated national debt total now.

Its also significant that without the massive reduction in spending by the Tories (the so called "cuts") the national debt would be almost twice as much.


Its like talking to a tree, PB !

... meanwhile, back to my trees !
 
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#176119
Spee

Incapable 3 Months ago  
Spee wrote:
ITK's response is consistent - 'lol !' - as he is unable to Google the facts

Q.E.D.


 
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