A British writer thinks so.

Theodore Dalrymple explains how Britain went down the drain

If there's truth in his theory of there being an amoral underclass, can't help but wonder if that has helped to fuel fraudulent claims of criminal behaviour with a view to compensation payouts.

Jo wrote:
A British writer thinks so.

Theodore Dalrymple explains how Britain went down the drain

If there's truth in his theory of there being an amoral underclass, can't help but wonder if that has helped to fuel fraudulent claims of criminal behaviour with a view to compensation payouts.

From the the article "The theme at the bottom of much of Dalrymple's writing is lack of self-restraint, from serial litterers to serial killers." A lot of things and words said but to me seemed to have missed many real issues. One real issue that changed from the early 70's after the oil crisis was a worldwide structural shift in available and well paid jobs.

Simply put "there are too many people chasing too few jobs" and yes that has increased claimants, especially with historic sexual abuse claims been a fraudster's wet dream. Instead of finding ways to scam the social security like housing benefit now one can get a huge pay out, up to recently. with no fallout if caught. Very different from scamming the benefit system. And you "will be believed". It is like heaven. Before the structural shift not only could people get work but youngsters and older family members could get part-time and causal work to top up family and personal income. Yes there are housing, education , attitude issues as well. It is really a lack in social concern rather than the other way round. A lot of these article start out with the assumption that the social system exists and people are getting the help thus the problems are caused by this "easy street" social system. But this is far from the reality.

So it's Jim's fault.
Decades before Savile's sexual predation was revealed, "he was the start of an evangelical vulgarisation that has proved unstoppable".
Appreciaing popular music, dancing to records, dyeing your hair, listening to what ordinary people have to say, fastening your seatbelt, running for charity, building hospitals, cycling (especially bloody cycling!) – his promotion of this kind of vulgarity probably created the unstoppable forces that brought about his own posthumous vilification.

Still, it was good while it lasted.

Wise words, wjlmarsh.

I hadn't noticed that, Misa. Good points. It's amazing how much Jimmy Savile can be blamed for!

Ever since a certain woman proclaimed there was "no such thing as society", society decided she was correct and all sectors of it aided in the dismantling of British "society" as a whole.

Add in a rampant class of amoral "free marketeers" aided by vile politicians (alleged "Conservatives" and New Labour alike) who tell the country that profit is the main motive and driver of all "that is good" and what life is all about, don't then begin moaning because an "under class" see those who rule them and make the decisions they live under have absolutely no moral compass or do not give a stuff how they suffer then begin to ape them.

(not prepared to name any culprits in this although the initials "I", "T" & "K" come to mind)

Then a largely (and uniquely) British right wing media compounds this (aided by the BBC that has been terrified into compliance) and of course the underclass will go for every lurk going.

All this is compounded by the fact society is riddled with sociopaths in every strata and class (10% ?) who are amoral and have zilch empathy.

It's human nature.

So true - in my experience - its more down that 'certain woman' and the politicians who followed in her footsteps..