www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-43965062

'Paedophile hunter' jailed for blackmailing victims

# Encouraged by police, media, MWT and CPS covert support for these creeps.

Someone trying to make money out of setting someone up? Now who do I know that has done that tone further a career!
Always the desk bangers who make the loudest noises have something to hide

When are people going to stop been so stupid and realise that a real 14 year old girl is not going to meet a middle aged man for sex. He got greedy and asked for £10,000, if he stuck to a few hundred he would probably still be free.

But a 14 year old girl will meet a middle aged man for sex. Provided he looks rich and drives a fast car.

robbiex wrote:
When are people going to stop been so stupid and realise that a real 14 year old girl is not going to meet a middle aged man for sex. He got greedy and asked for £10,000, if he stuck to a few hundred he would probably still be free.

I think the point is that the fourteen year old girls dont always realise that their admirer is middle aged until it is too late.

And these vigilante idiots dont know if they are talking to child who is pretending to be older.

It is never too late, they can always change their mind.

The idea of the "predatory middle aged male" is a feminist myth. Grooming laws are solely designed to target vulnerable, lonely, involuntarily celibate men.

There is always a fool,and plenty who will abuse this.

holocaust21 wrote:
It is never too late, they can always change their mind.

The idea of the "predatory middle aged male" is a feminist myth. Grooming laws are solely designed to target vulnerable, lonely, involuntarily celibate men.

Agreed they are they are goaded into the conversations with fake under-aged girls, however they are on these chat sites aimed at children and teens in the first place. There shouldn't be much reason why people are involuntarily celibate. There are plenty of escort sites out there, for those that want them.

holocaust21 wrote:
Grooming laws are solely designed to target vulnerable, lonely, involuntarily celibate men.

Actually, the target of the laws is the young girls (never mind the boys - they're an inconvenient side issue) they purport to protect. Older women don't want competition for men's attention and resources from more attractive and fertile teenage girls. That's why female teachers who shag male pupils get treated so leniently in comparison.

As is the case with all paedophile hunting activity, underlying this is the overwhelmingly popular belief that paedophilia is a totally incurable condition.

Paedophiles need help not condemnation.

www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/3216b48d-...67-8149-54586689ae3c

robbiex wrote:
holocaust21 wrote:
It is never too late, they can always change their mind.

The idea of the "predatory middle aged male" is a feminist myth. Grooming laws are solely designed to target vulnerable, lonely, involuntarily celibate men.

Agreed they are they are goaded into the conversations with fake under-aged girls, however they are on these chat sites aimed at children and teens in the first place. There shouldn't be much reason why people are involuntarily celibate. There are plenty of escort sites out there, for those that want them.

there may be escort services but can the unemployed or even average working class man afford to access them?

This is a really insidious crime..I mean the targeting of these men.
The very notion a 14/15/16 year old real girl is going to keep responding to a 30/40/50 year old male stranger is ludicrous.

Anyone believing young girls, whose sole desire in life is to meet Justin Beiber will engage in sexy banter with a middle aged bloke is fooling themselves and has probably zilch knowledge of today's teenagers.

Of course a lonely bloke with no social life is going to be drawn in by a supposed teendager responding positively to them. It's human nature.

And where are all the examples of real teen girls or boys meeting up with these middle aged men?

This is a created crime with no victims except the men who are harassed and arrested for trying to contact or meet an imaginary person.

It is in fact the real first instance of a thought crime(and there will be more examples as the gate has now been opened). It's Kafka in action.

And while some cops may have to go along with orders and do the same as the 'pedo hunters' they still sign off at the end of the day.

The amateur pedo hunters are not just a danger but highly suspect. Deeply suppresed desires surfacing?

And it's why I say they have been encouraged because oafs like the disgraceful Mark Williams Thomas and certain cops keep saying "we understand why they want to do it but they should leave it us". Really?.."they understand? They are signalling that's it's OK to be vigilantes. People have already died. Innocent men who have committed no real crime.

I don't understand why they "want to do it". They all look like real perverts to me and very sinister people. I'd have each and every one of them investigated and examined by a team of shrinks.

hedda wrote:
The very notion a 14/15/16 year old real girl is going to keep responding to a 30/40/50 year old male stranger is ludicrous.
This is simply not true, hedda. Plenty of girls of those ages like older men. Why should this be such a difficult idea to accept? People of other ages have preferences for older or younger partners, or no preference.


hedda wrote:

And where are all the examples of real teen girls or boys meeting up with these middle aged men?

You might recall seeing prosecutions of men for meeting and actually having sex with underage girls. We can assume that there are also many other meetings that don't come to anyone's attention. I rather suspect that the great majority of these meetings are mutually enjoyable encounters for the participants, regardless of how distasteful other people not involved might think them.


I'd also like to point out that the ages you suggest are legal ages of consent in a number of European countries. A 30 year old man with a 15 year old girlfriend wouldn't raise eyebrows in Italy, for example. I'm personally acquainted with several young ladies from across Europe who had relationships with middle aged men while in their early- to mid-teens. None of them suffered any ill effects. Just the opposite in fact: these relationships tend to be recalled favourably. I think it's often the differences between us that give rise to attraction, and age can be one such difference.

"I think it's often the differences between us that give rise to attraction, and age can be one such difference." Well said Randall!

As Prof Richard Mohr put it so succinctly in his The Pedophilia of Everyday Life article: “Society needs the paedophile: his existence allows everyone else to view sexy children innocently. Were society to allow itself to articulate that it does have sexual interests in children - little adults are not sexy, but innocence and purity are - society would have met the enemy and seen that he is us.”

It is simply history repeating itself ... once upon a time, society also needed the homosexual.

Incidentally, md's claim that 'paedophiles need help not condemnation' is all very well, but for all the wrong reasons, not least given that the linked BBC article is authored anonymously by someone who works for a charity embedded in the sexual abuse industry, and whose sexual orientation was changed and his paedophilic disorder cured ... allegedly. Now that is what I call abnormal. Follow the money.

Randall wrote:
[quote]hedda wrote:
The very notion a 14/15/16 year old real girl is going to keep responding to a 30/40/50 year old male stranger is ludicrous.
This is simply not true, hedda. Plenty of girls of those ages like older men. Why should this be such a difficult idea to accept? People of other ages have preferences for older or younger partners, or no preference.


Yes but they don't usually go to the police and claim rape do they?

Indeed here is an example of the very thing you say..a gorgeous young filly aiding a much much older gentleman out of of the surf so he can have his afternoon nap. She may just be his carer or nurse but they look pretty friendly. No idea who they are but I believe the chap's name is Rupert and the young vixen is Jerry.

There is the Eastbourne teacher who had a relationship with a 15 year old pupil, however he was only 30, which is still relatively young and "wild child" Emma Ridley married a man of 30 when she was 15. Teens don't fancy men in their 40s and 50s, the very idea is repellent to most. Those that do, it is usually for the money or the publicity, they won't be regular people that they are dating.

Lots of examples of teenage girls (and younger) fucking older guys here: www.ipce.info/host/rivas/girls_men.htm

Randall was of course spot on. The real reason for the age of consent is the sexual jealousy and bitterness of older women.

Actually, what I have realised recently is that in some ways the "sexual revolution" contributed to this since many women would fuck around with many guys. They then get old and ugly and guys don't want to fuck them anymore. Then, as they are now unmarried and childless (due to having fucked around and never settled) the sexual jealousy and bitterness sets in and they desperately want to raise the age of consent to increase their own sexual market value. Now, if we didn't have the sexual revolution and instead we had "traditional values" i.e. strongly encouraged young marriage with marriage being for life, very difficult/socially unacceptable to get a divorce etc then we wouldn't have ended up with so many old, bitter, sexually jealous women and so there would not be as much pressure to hunt down "paedophiles". But, alas, as it is, there are now literally hordes of them and it is impossible to stop them. Anyone who stands up to them gets killed in a brutal, horrendous way. Even a billionaire can't do much. Heck, even Trump decided to give up and become a feminist by increasing child porn sentences to 15 years in prison as a minimum.

I've spent my whole life hoping that there would be a way to end feminism. But I'm running out of ideas. It seems to be impossible. It's so depressing really.

robbiex wrote:
There is the Eastbourne teacher who had a relationship with a 15 year old pupil, however he was only 30, which is still relatively young and "wild child" Emma Ridley married a man of 30 when she was 15. Teens don't fancy men in their 40s and 50s, the very idea is repellent to most. Those that do, it is usually for the money or the publicity, they won't be regular people that they are dating.

what a gift you have to know the inner thoughts and feelings of Britain's yoof.

holocaust21 wrote:
Lots of examples of teenage girls (and younger) fucking older guys here: www.ipce.info/host/rivas/girls_men.htm

Randall was of course spot on. The real reason for the age of consent is the sexual jealousy and bitterness of older women.

Actually, what I have realised recently is that in some ways the "sexual revolution" contributed to this since many women would fuck around with many guys. They then get old and ugly and guys don't want to fuck them anymore. Then, as they are now unmarried and childless (due to having fucked around and never settled) the sexual jealousy and bitterness sets in and they desperately want to raise the age of consent to increase their own sexual market value. Now, if we didn't have the sexual revolution and instead we had "traditional values" i.e. strongly encouraged young marriage with marriage being for life, very difficult/socially unacceptable to get a divorce etc then we wouldn't have ended up with so many old, bitter, sexually jealous women and so there would not be as much pressure to hunt down "paedophiles". But, alas, as it is, there are now literally hordes of them and it is impossible to stop them. Anyone who stands up to them gets killed in a brutal, horrendous way. Even a billionaire can't do much. Heck, even Trump decided to give up and become a feminist by increasing child porn sentences to 15 years in prison as a minimum.

I've spent my whole life hoping that there would be a way to end feminism. But I'm running out of ideas. It seems to be impossible. It's so depressing really.

some truth in that and aided by the ghastly Feminazis (as opposed to genuine feminists who are few and far between).

There is also the fact that a many people become more conservative as they get older and then re-swrite the history of their own youthful escapades for whatever reason.