This has become the norm on both sides of the Atlantic - ousted by fake news and bullshit.

Sadly - shouting the later often wins, when the clear facts (verifiable) speak for themselves and tell a different story.

Just a couple of examples. Tories favour the wealthy; just look at their rich supporters, well connected MPs and economic policies.

And then, there's child abuse by priests - many ignore the findings of courts, investigations and juries - in dozens of countries.


But some still have doubts...even that the Holocaust ever happened...

Barney wrote:
This has become the norm on both sides of the Atlantic - ousted by fake news and bullshit.

Sadly - shouting the later often wins, when the clear facts (verifiable) speak for themselves and tell a different story.

Just a couple of examples. Tories favour the wealthy; just look at their rich supporters, well connected MPs and economic policies.

And then, there's child abuse by priests - many ignore the findings of courts, investigations and juries - in dozens of countries.


But some still have doubts...even that the Holocaust ever happened...

I would imagine that some aspects of the holocaust were covered up or played down and that other parts were exaggerated, because that is what happens with most things.