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TOPIC: For Savile watchers
#183555
For Savile watchers 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
this is excellent, balanced, forensic... shame the national media will ignore it.

www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/free/lobster7...b75-anna-raccoon.pdf
 
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#183558
Jo

Re:For Savile watchers 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
Should be compulsory reading for the national media. Anna Raccoon is sorely missed.
 
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#183570
Misa

Re:For Savile watchers 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
Thank you for that, JK. It's a very good piece from Andrew Rosthorn.

This quote, from a 1970s Duncroft resident, fascinates me: “Well, even back then, I noticed if you were talking about real abuse
it was boring, like any real story, it doesn’t have the right beginning,
middle and end, it doesn’t have the high points.”
If we are so accustomed to drama, to narrative fiction, that we judge the credibility of a real-world account by the same standards, then we are likely to be captivated by the very stories we should trust the least.

Old-fashioned common sense ought to protect us from such making blunders...we all know that something can be 'too good to be true', even a story of appalling evil. Yet our rationality demands clear motivations, causes and effects, and a chain of events...something quite like narrative coherence.
 
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#183573
Re:For Savile watchers 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
So where does this lead us? Well if I were a national investigative journalist, I'd smell a huge story; that ITV conspired with Mark Williams Thomas to construct a deliberate fake story about a celebrity, conveniently now dead. After finding out who provided the out of date Surrey Police headed paper for the forged letter (Google fake Savile letter - article in Mail) and examining these clearly genuine letters from the school... they tend to exonerate Surrey Police and their Savile investigation, showing they did behave correctly in that incident. So the MWT story starts to smell - even more in the light of the recent revelations about his behaviour. With the upcoming behaviour of "Nick" about to fall under the spotlight (no reporting restrictions, please; let us not forget his Savile claims). This can of worms is really exploding!

www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/free/lobster7...b75-anna-raccoon.pdf
 
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#183574
Re:For Savile watchers 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
And the link to that story about the strange forged Surrey Police letter carrying the 2000 logo (changed in 2001). For the sake of clarity, Mark Williams Thomas left Surrey Police in 2000 - taking his notebooks (and possibly blank stationery) with him.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2217352...le-BBC-decision.html
 
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Jo

Re:For Savile watchers 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
I see that the Mail doesn't actually say that police stationery was used, just refers to a police crest. Still highly questionable, though, and it's a wonder that this story hasn't been followed up.

"The letter is also headed by a Surrey Police crest not in use at the time it was supposedly written."
 
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Misa

Re:For Savile watchers 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
Another wretched little man. One grifter and one fantasist. Does it not worry you that they could wreak such havoc?

The Surrey invesigation looked fine, except for the fact that it was continued long after it was clear that there was nothing to find.

The credulous fools who promoted and perpetuated this story – hundreds or thousands of them – they have no way to acknowledge what happened, never mind those who cynically used the situation to their advantage.

I hope more comes out of Nick/Carl's trial, and I hope MWT gets his comeuppance, but no more than that. There's no need to be vindictive.

It really doesn't say much for our society that we can be so easily gulled by a few pathetic creatures.
 
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