The BBC say Jo Brand wasn't being serious so its ok.
Fair enough, but Danny Baker is a comedian too.
Why different treatment?

Yes double standards by the bbc, if it was a right wing comic suggesting attacking people on the left, their careers would be over. I think that this difference with Danny Baker is that the picture had racist connotations, which is now taboo in todays society. The intention definitely wasn't racist, just thoughtless
. I also heard someone say that Rory Stewart looks like a monkey on the radio 4 show "The news quiz". I think that Rory may have some oriental heritage, so there may be a racial connotation there. I think that is worse than the Danny Baker case, because the comment was obviously intentional and part of a bbc show, not a private twitter account.

Little BigJohn worth reading on this.

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-71399...s-like-Jo-Brand.html

The BBC have an agenda - I'm surprised the police didn't arrest Danny Baker.

Can you imagine if Farage said that on LBC would be in danger.

Despite not owning a TV set it or an aerial I still get letters - good for bonfires though.

robbiex wrote:
Yes double standards by the bbc, if it was a right wing comic suggesting attacking people on the left, their careers would be over. I think that this difference with Danny Baker is that the picture had racist connotations, which is now taboo in todays society. The intention definitely wasn't racist, just thoughtless
. I also heard someone say that Rory Stewart looks like a monkey on the radio 4 show "The news quiz". I think that Rory may have some oriental heritage, so there may be a racial connotation there. I think that is worse than the Danny Baker case, because the comment was obviously intentional and part of a bbc show, not a private twitter account.

I think he was only in Hong Kong because his father was a diplomat, but if he was oriental, considering they tend to be the least hairy type of human, wouldn't there be less racial connotation than with some others?

Anyway, he does look a bit like a monkey even if he is hairless because he has got a nice big smile and roundness abut the mouth.
It is definitely a good thing!

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
robbiex wrote:
Yes double standards by the bbc, if it was a right wing comic suggesting attacking people on the left, their careers would be over. I think that this difference with Danny Baker is that the picture had racist connotations, which is now taboo in todays society. The intention definitely wasn't racist, just thoughtless
. I also heard someone say that Rory Stewart looks like a monkey on the radio 4 show "The news quiz". I think that Rory may have some oriental heritage, so there may be a racial connotation there. I think that is worse than the Danny Baker case, because the comment was obviously intentional and part of a bbc show, not a private twitter account.

I think he was only in Hong Kong because his father was a diplomat, but if he was oriental, considering they tend to be the least hairy type of human, wouldn't there be less racial connotation than with some others?

Anyway, he does look a bit like a monkey even if he is hairless because he has got a nice big smile and roundness abut the mouth.
It is definitely a good thing!

He looks like a serial killer with an inane smile.

Green Man wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
robbiex wrote:
Yes double standards by the bbc, if it was a right wing comic suggesting attacking people on the left, their careers would be over. I think that this difference with Danny Baker is that the picture had racist connotations, which is now taboo in todays society. The intention definitely wasn't racist, just thoughtless
. I also heard someone say that Rory Stewart looks like a monkey on the radio 4 show "The news quiz". I think that Rory may have some oriental heritage, so there may be a racial connotation there. I think that is worse than the Danny Baker case, because the comment was obviously intentional and part of a bbc show, not a private twitter account.

I think he was only in Hong Kong because his father was a diplomat, but if he was oriental, considering they tend to be the least hairy type of human, wouldn't there be less racial connotation than with some others?

Anyway, he does look a bit like a monkey even if he is hairless because he has got a nice big smile and roundness abut the mouth.
It is definitely a good thing!

He looks like a serial killer with an inane smile.

Yes, very like Norman Bates. But again, its not a bad thing.

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
Green Man wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
robbiex wrote:
Yes double standards by the bbc, if it was a right wing comic suggesting attacking people on the left, their careers would be over. I think that this difference with Danny Baker is that the picture had racist connotations, which is now taboo in todays society. The intention definitely wasn't racist, just thoughtless
. I also heard someone say that Rory Stewart looks like a monkey on the radio 4 show "The news quiz". I think that Rory may have some oriental heritage, so there may be a racial connotation there. I think that is worse than the Danny Baker case, because the comment was obviously intentional and part of a bbc show, not a private twitter account.

I think he was only in Hong Kong because his father was a diplomat, but if he was oriental, considering they tend to be the least hairy type of human, wouldn't there be less racial connotation than with some others?

Anyway, he does look a bit like a monkey even if he is hairless because he has got a nice big smile and roundness abut the mouth.
It is definitely a good thing!

He looks like a serial killer with an inane smile.

Yes, very like Norman Bates. But again, its not a bad thing.

Total bollox, he has a lovely friendly face.

Jo Brand is one of my all time favourite comedians and it's such a typical throwaway line of hers but we live in times where one must bite their tongue continually.

I'm not sure her statement is comparable to Danny Baker's which did come across as racist although I'm aware of his history re the subject matter. Surely not a sackable offence though..perhaps a month off air and "re-education" about being careful not to make what could sound like a racist comment.

What stands out here is the complainant Nigel Farage has made horrendously damaging, racist and violence encouraging statements but he gets a total free ride all the time.

It's just a very weird time..you have the US President being feted by The Queen etc who has called Mexicans rapists , murderers and drug dealers and worse..along with other quite disgusting (false) claims and the red carpet is rolled out for him.

On a State Visit he interferes directly in British political matters by announcing who should be PM and you would have to be and to not think that 100,000 Tories voting for the new PM (so much for democracy) did not take note.

Now you have Nigel Farage announcing he will be leading trade talks with Trump and I guarantee Trump will meet with Farge and his mates and beat up the whole thing.

Meanwhile Vladimir Putin sits back and rubs his hands and sips on fine Vodka as he watches a united Europe struggle to remain united and slowly a New World Order emerges.

Perhaps it was always meant io be..China and Russia's time to shine. Problem is Russia is controleld by gangsters.

robbiex wrote:
[quote]honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
Green Man wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
robbiex wrote:
Yes double standards by the bbc, if it was a right wing comic suggesting attacking people on the left, their careers would be over. I think that this difference with Danny Baker is that the picture had racist connotations, which is now taboo in todays society. The intention definitely wasn't racist, just thoughtless
. I also heard someone say that Rory Stewart looks like a monkey on the radio 4 show "The news quiz". I think that Rory may have some oriental heritage, so there may be a racial connotation there. I think that is worse than the Danny Baker case, because the comment was obviously intentional and part of a bbc show, not a private twitter account.

I think he was only in Hong Kong because his father was a diplomat, but if he was oriental, considering they tend to be the least hairy type of human, wouldn't there be less racial connotation than with some others?

Anyway, he does look a bit like a monkey even if he is hairless because he has got a nice big smile and roundness abut the mouth.
It is definitely a good thing!

He looks like a serial killer with an inane smile.

Yes, very like Norman Bates. But again, its not a bad thing.

Total bollox, he has a lovely friendly face.[/quote

So does Norman Bates. Havent you seen it?

hedda wrote:
Jo Brand is one of my all time favourite comedians and it's such a typical throwaway line of hers but we live in times where one must bite their tongue continually.

I'm not sure her statement is comparable to Danny Baker's which did come across as racist although I'm aware of his history re the subject matter. Surely not a sackable offence though..perhaps a month off air and "re-education" about being careful not to make what could sound like a racist comment.

What stands out here is the complainant Nigel Farage has made horrendously damaging, racist and violence encouraging statements but he gets a total free ride all the time.

It's just a very weird time..you have the US President being feted by The Queen etc who has called Mexicans rapists , murderers and drug dealers and worse..along with other quite disgusting (false) claims and the red carpet is rolled out for him.

On a State Visit he interferes directly in British political matters by announcing who should be PM and you would have to be and to not think that 100,000 Tories voting for the new PM (so much for democracy) did not take note.

Now you have Nigel Farage announcing he will be leading trade talks with Trump and I guarantee Trump will meet with Farge and his mates and beat up the whole thing.

Meanwhile Vladimir Putin sits back and rubs his hands and sips on fine Vodka as he watches a united Europe struggle to remain united and slowly a New World Order emerges.

Perhaps it was always meant io be..China and Russia's time to shine. Problem is Russia is controleld by gangsters.

Neither joke bothered me, but if I was forced to choose someone to sack I would give the at a stretch vague possibility of someone being injured with battery acid a higher priority than somebody's hurt feelings.

I cant help feeling that the difference in reaction is because Jo Brand is very lovely and Danny Baker much less so.

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
hedda wrote:
Jo Brand is one of my all time favourite comedians and it's such a typical throwaway line of hers but we live in times where one must bite their tongue continually.

I'm not sure her statement is comparable to Danny Baker's which did come across as racist although I'm aware of his history re the subject matter. Surely not a sackable offence though..perhaps a month off air and "re-education" about being careful not to make what could sound like a racist comment.

What stands out here is the complainant Nigel Farage has made horrendously damaging, racist and violence encouraging statements but he gets a total free ride all the time.

It's just a very weird time..you have the US President being feted by The Queen etc who has called Mexicans rapists , murderers and drug dealers and worse..along with other quite disgusting (false) claims and the red carpet is rolled out for him.

On a State Visit he interferes directly in British political matters by announcing who should be PM and you would have to be and to not think that 100,000 Tories voting for the new PM (so much for democracy) did not take note.

Now you have Nigel Farage announcing he will be leading trade talks with Trump and I guarantee Trump will meet with Farge and his mates and beat up the whole thing.

Meanwhile Vladimir Putin sits back and rubs his hands and sips on fine Vodka as he watches a united Europe struggle to remain united and slowly a New World Order emerges.

Perhaps it was always meant io be..China and Russia's time to shine. Problem is Russia is controleld by gangsters.

Neither joke bothered me, but if I was forced to choose someone to sack I would give the at a stretch vague possibility of someone being injured with battery acid a higher priority than somebody's hurt feelings.

I cant help feeling that the difference in reaction is because Jo Brand is very lovely and Danny Baker much less so.

Personally I can't stand up comedians, I'm still waiting for a stand up comedian to actually make me laugh still.

Green Man wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
hedda wrote:
Jo Brand is one of my all time favourite comedians and it's such a typical throwaway line of hers but we live in times where one must bite their tongue continually.

I'm not sure her statement is comparable to Danny Baker's which did come across as racist although I'm aware of his history re the subject matter. Surely not a sackable offence though..perhaps a month off air and "re-education" about being careful not to make what could sound like a racist comment.

What stands out here is the complainant Nigel Farage has made horrendously damaging, racist and violence encouraging statements but he gets a total free ride all the time.

It's just a very weird time..you have the US President being feted by The Queen etc who has called Mexicans rapists , murderers and drug dealers and worse..along with other quite disgusting (false) claims and the red carpet is rolled out for him.

On a State Visit he interferes directly in British political matters by announcing who should be PM and you would have to be and to not think that 100,000 Tories voting for the new PM (so much for democracy) did not take note.

Now you have Nigel Farage announcing he will be leading trade talks with Trump and I guarantee Trump will meet with Farge and his mates and beat up the whole thing.

Meanwhile Vladimir Putin sits back and rubs his hands and sips on fine Vodka as he watches a united Europe struggle to remain united and slowly a New World Order emerges.

Perhaps it was always meant io be..China and Russia's time to shine. Problem is Russia is controleld by gangsters.

Neither joke bothered me, but if I was forced to choose someone to sack I would give the at a stretch vague possibility of someone being injured with battery acid a higher priority than somebody's hurt feelings.

I cant help feeling that the difference in reaction is because Jo Brand is very lovely and Danny Baker much less so.

Personally I can't stand up comedians, I'm still waiting for a stand up comedian to actually make me laugh still.

I do like Jo Brand, and Peter Kay. I thought everybody liked Peter Kay? Oh, and Ben Elton when he used to do it, so not many stand ups for me either.

Peter Kay, oh the man who got famous from pub jokes.

Ben Elton is nausating on stage and in person.

In person I found Ben Elton very nice and I think he's an excellent writer - Upstart Crow one of the best series ever. I love Jo Brand as a comic too. And I'm a huge Peter Kay fan.