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#190503
Terry Collier

So called "worldwide ban" on naming someone.?? 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
I hope someone here can maybe explain this one.
Only in the UK does this seem to happen.
And for some bizarre reason nobody questions this absurdity...ever.

There is a "worldwide ban" and I have also seen written in MSM the phrase "ban against the world" from revealing the names of certain individuals who have had their identities changed...usually for some hideous crime or other...

Im talking.

Mary Bell
Maxine Carr
Bulger killers
Both women jailed alongside Ian Watkins

Aswell as several others....all UK criminals.

Yet when some court order claims that naming these people will result in prosecution....how on earth does that apply to ANYONE outside the UK??

***Since when did the UK have the power to enforce worldide bans on anything?***

Its an absolute impossibility yet nobody seems to ever question it.

Ok for instance....someone from Africa,Japan,Russia..maybe outer Mongolia writes an online blog naming any of the above folk....How on earth are the UK courts gonna prevent that?...and even more laughable...How would they go about prosecuting someone outside the UK?

From doing some searches there is not a single "worldwide ban" on anything!..this includes such stuff as
child pornography,animal cruelty...and even murder (honour killing is murder here...but in some countries it is acceptable).

Yet....we are led to beleive that when a UK judge states "i am banning the ENTIRE WORLD from naming this person in the media and on all social media!" that this really has implications for EVERYONE doing so...no matter their location!


Please somebody explain this.
 
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#190507
hedda

Re:So called "worldwide ban" on naming someone.?? 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
there are far more bans on naming people that your infamous cases.

All victims of sexual abuse crimes are protected and others such as in the Hampstead Satanic Hoax there is now ban on naming witness..such as the falsely accused residents .

Your point is valid but that does not mean the law should ignore these matters as so-called "free speech" (it never is) advocates claim.

As in the Hampstead hoax the only way these names can be published is via social media which has got away with murder since the invention of the internet but is now being hauled into line.

Twitter, Facebook etc are now obligated to take down the names and risk prosecution if they don't and will soon probably risk prosecution even by inadvertently allowing fanatics to name people whose identity is protected.

Any person who comes under the jurisdiction will be prosecuted and those who don;t risk being prevented from traveling to the UK.

The recent ban on David Icke on entering Australia (when he visited 2 years earlier) is a good example and I'm reliably told Immigration used his antisemitism as the main reason but there was many more..such as he ludicrous claims certain powerful people run The World and are really lizards ..several had complained about his bizarre claims on his forums and in books and said why should they invest huge sums in Australia when the country allows a man who accuses them of murder, Satanic abuse etc etc to profit int hat country from his falsehoods?. I won't name names but you know who they are.

Same same the wig wearing Milo Whatver His Name is. ( I only mention his toupees which are superb because he arrogantly cl,aims he is incredibly good looking yet a New York hairdresser I know says he's as bald a s badger )

What you really are saying is this : if a person robs a bank and scarpers to a country with no extradition treaty with the UK then the authorities should just give up seeking them out. It isn't going to happen.

Those who ignore legitimate bans on, say naming people in the UK (and search engines are now required to remove links that name such people from being accessed in the UK) can still face sanction in the future.

## example is that Hampstead case where a nutter who claims he is the "rightful King of England" (there are so mnay contenders) was refused entry to the UK this year after claiming he was coming to seize Buckingham Palace and boot Her Majesty out and then prevented from flying to Ireland.

The real problem here is: those who ignore such court orders and mock the fact that they can only apply in the UK are playing into the hands of legislators that are now itching to govern all aspects of the Internet. The EU is doing exactly that and investigating new laws that protect citizens from unfair exposure.

At present the Internet is the equivalent of the local Town Hall Notice Board where anyone is allowed to post their Poison Pen Letters without being held to account.
The general public as usual in it's collective idiocy thinks this will last forever.
 
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#190529
Terry Collier

Re:So called "worldwide ban" on naming someone.?? 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Im not interested in conspiracy nonsense of other satanic garbage...
I just want to know a straight forward answer to how a UK judge can say "I am ordering a WORLDWIDE BAN on anyone naming Joe Bloggs new identity"

It is absolutely absurd.Even more absurd than Hoaxtead and the reptilian agenda combined.

For instance if some american judge ordered such a ban...do you think anybody outside U.S would give a toss or worry about exposing the new identity of some utter vermin?

Besides these court orders never work.Only maybe with MARY BELL her wherabouts and identity seem to remain a mystery...However that is because her crimes happened some 50 years ago.
Had she committed them in the 90s her identity would be commin knowledge by now.

Im not advocating naming and shaming or whatever...im just gobsmacked by this idea that people swallow such a bizarre outburst as "I am impossing a worldwide ban!" Its beyond laughable.
 
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#191438
Stormzy Daniels

Re:So called "worldwide ban" on naming someone.?? 4 Months, 1 Week ago  
A guy just got NINE MONTHS IN PRISON for a tweet.
He posted an afult pic of Bulger Killer Jon Venables

Countless folk have done this and still do.
But this idea of "worldwide ban" is really astonishing.
There can not be a worldwide ban on ANYTHING..its an impossibility.
Yet the UK really does think it can enforce such nonsense....and for some bizarre reason people accept this!
 
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#191447
wyot

Re:So called 4 Months, 1 Week ago  
Terry Collier wrote:
Im not interested in conspiracy nonsense of other satanic garbage...
I just want to know a straight forward answer to how a UK judge can say "I am ordering a WORLDWIDE BAN on anyone naming Joe Bloggs new identity"

It is absolutely absurd.Even more absurd than Hoaxtead and the reptilian agenda combined.

For instance if some american judge ordered such a ban...do you think anybody outside U.S would give a toss or worry about exposing the new identity of some utter vermin?

Besides these court orders never work.Only maybe with MARY BELL her wherabouts and identity seem to remain a mystery...However that is because her crimes happened some 50 years ago.
Had she committed them in the 90s her identity would be commin knowledge by now.

Im not advocating naming and shaming or whatever...im just gobsmacked by this idea that people swallow such a bizarre outburst as "I am impossing a worldwide ban!" Its beyond laughable.


The answer to your question of why they order a ban is: because they can order the ban.
 
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#191448
wyot

Re:So called "worldwide ban" on naming someone.?? 4 Months, 1 Week ago  
Well "they" have enforced this "nonsense": he got a 9 month custodial sentence...
 
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#191449
wyot

Re:So called 4 Months, 1 Week ago  
Terry Collier wrote:
Im not interested in conspiracy nonsense of other satanic garbage...
I just want to know a straight forward answer to how a UK judge can say "I am ordering a WORLDWIDE BAN on anyone naming Joe Bloggs new identity"

It is absolutely absurd.Even more absurd than Hoaxtead and the reptilian agenda combined.

For instance if some american judge ordered such a ban...do you think anybody outside U.S would give a toss or worry about exposing the new identity of some utter vermin?

Besides these court orders never work.Only maybe with MARY BELL her wherabouts and identity seem to remain a mystery...However that is because her crimes happened some 50 years ago.
Had she committed them in the 90s her identity would be commin knowledge by now.

Im not advocating naming and shaming or whatever...im just gobsmacked by this idea that people swallow such a bizarre outburst as "I am impossing a worldwide ban!" Its beyond laughable.


Mary Bell: do you know much about her? Raised from a baby in a one room flat by her mother who "specialised" in sado masochistic sex as a prostitute. The toddler Mary watched her mother being "mock strangled" during what passed for a "childhood". She then carried out "strangulation" on a toddler near her home aged 11 which went horribly wrong and since then has been quoted as an icon of "evil"; kids do what their parents do, and the worse happened. "Evil" Mary Bell, bollocks. I am thankful for a loving, nurturing childhood...And I imagine now the "danger" she poses is pretty much zero.....
 
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#191454
Stormzy Daniels

Re:So called 4 Months, 1 Week ago  
Yes ofcourse I know about Mary Bell.I read both books about her (Cries Unheard and The Mary Bell Case)
And if you want my honest opinion I hope the murders destroyed Marys worthless mother and haunted her to her stinking coffin.
If you abuse a child mentally and warp its young mind don't be suprised if they end up going on a killing spree.Many parents are to blame for their abused sons and daughters later turning to serial murder.
One strange fact about that case is her partner in crime Flora Bell got off scot free...even though she participated in both killings.

Still the question about "worldwide ban" remains unanswered.
 
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