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TOPIC: Milk and Brexit
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Milk and Brexit 4 Years, 8 Months ago
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The penny has dropped for Northern Ireland dairy farmers - over 3,000 of which have about 300,000 cattle.
Virtually all of the milk produced is exported south to the Republic of Ireland - over 800 million litres, annually. As both countries are currently in the EU, no levies apply.
But when NI leaves the EU (in 7 weeks time), tariffs will kick in - making it totally uneconomical for the RoI to buy milk from NI.
Roughly speaking, the 25p per litre retail cost in RoI (with a 19/20p EU levy, applicable in RoI) would increase to c45p. Thus a major market for NI will be lost.
And there are so many more examples.
One more - about 80% of RoI beef and dairy produce comes to the UK mainland; that market will soon be denied them.
We too, will have to sourse from new markets.
More unown factors and consequences are around every corner....
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Re:Milk and Brexit 4 Years, 8 Months ago
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On leaving the EU also, the UK will default to World Trade Organisation terms.
A very crucial factor, as we don't produce enough dairy products to fulfill our own needs.
Essentially therefore, dairy prices will escalate - particularly for high quality products, such as some cheeses and yogurts.
Fishing will have unclear boundaries, transport will be problematical, medical attention abroad- a lottery.
The list is simply endless. I'm going nowhere until 2021/31.
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Re:Milk and Brexit 4 Years, 8 Months ago
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Around 2012, the New IRA was formed - from a number of dissident Republican groups in Northern Ireland.
They were responsible for the murder of journalist Lyra McKee a few months ago, and see Brexit as a means to a united Ireland.
Opinion polls on the island vary - an average would be 55% against a united Ireland; 45% for.
Disillusionment with the economy in NI will see more supporting the united cause. The UK Exchequer props up the province with a £1 million subvention, every month.
However - with a National Debt of €206+ billion (costing over €5 billion in interest, every year), the Republic of Ireland simply couldn't afford NI.
And the monthly subvention would simply be impossible to fund...
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Re:Milk and Brexit 4 Years, 8 Months ago
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However, economics are not the strong point of fanatics who want a united Ireland at all costs.
And still revere the 1916 leaders of the uprising - all of whom were executed by the British.
Since the troubles began, nearly 4,000 people were killed - on the island of Ireland and on the UK mainland.
By seeing Brexit as an opportunity, the New IRA could well recommence terrorist operations - on the back of austerity and discontent.
The reemergence of a physical border - between north and south - would be a godsend to their paramilitary activities, financed by smuggling and theft.
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Re:Milk and Brexit 4 Years, 8 Months ago
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Barney wrote:
However, economics are not the strong point of fanatics who want a united Ireland at all costs.
And still revere the 1916 leaders of the uprising - all of whom were executed by the British.
Since the troubles began, nearly 4,000 people were killed - on the island of Ireland and on the UK mainland.
By seeing Brexit as an opportunity, the New IRA could well recommence terrorist operations - on the back of austerity and discontent.
The reemergence of a physical border - between north and south - would be a godsend to their paramilitary activities, financed by smuggling and theft.
I agree with a lot of this but differ on the point that economics is not a major driving factor. It may not be a litersl reason for fanaticism but economic austerity and unemployment are a significant factor in creating the right conditions to attract - usually - young men into the ranks. When you don't know where you fit, need to get laid and have no self esteem outside of being part of a "cause" it is a fecund breeding ground. Btexit one way or another will equal more violence of this kind. And further: the unemployed man drinking more who assaults his wife, the kids as witness. Catastrophising? Well maybe a little, but the increase in violence and crime of particular kinds will I assert prove real...
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