it's not a "theory" but I believe, very real.
COMING SOON.

Tell us more Hedda.

It's coming..shortly. A brief post. It will be a book.

I may not survive though. I've had one threat. It's a battle mainly concerning the extraordinary corruption of the Victorian Police and their involvement with various Italian Mafia crime gangs. The corruption is staggering although now being exposed.
It involved the courts as well.
Pell is just a side note- but an amazing victim because of his Vatican work.

At least I'll still be beautiful (but old) if I die soon.

Mafia conspiracy theories have been around for generations - relating to the Vatican.

Only because both emanate from Italy; significantly, no tangible evidence has been shown.

Partly perhaps - because of the Omerta practices of both large organisations.

Even more theories exist about Opus Dei - a highly secretive Catholic society, with the highest echelons of the clergy as members.

Pell - (as far as we know) isn't a Mafiosa, although he holds a high position in Opus Dei.

He even introduced OD to Australia for the first time - often described as the white catholic freemasons.

OD means 'work of God'- and is one of the many Vatican secrets, and well exhibited in the movie 'Da Vinci Code'.


Transparency doesn't feature in the church, but leaks are slowly occurring - maybe why Pell had to go.

Significantly the retired Pope I is becoming more eloquent...

Barney wrote:
Pell - (as far as we know) isn't a Mafiosa, although he holds a high position in Opus Dei.

He even introduced OD to Australia for the first time - often described as the white catholic freemasons.

OD means 'work of God'- and is one of the many Vatican secrets, and well exhibited in the movie 'Da Vinci Code'.


Transparency doesn't feature in the church, but leaks are slowly occurring - maybe why Pell had to go.

Significantly the retired Pope I is becoming more eloquent...



A little coincidence has arisen from this post and Mr King's post of yesterday concerning Lady Millicent Hawes. The Rosslyn Chapel that featured at the centre of the Da Vinci Code conspiracy theory is on lands belonging to the St. Clair-Erskine family. The maiden name of Lady Millicent Hawes who brought a Jewish family to safety from persecution during WWII was Lady Millicent Fanny St. Clair-Erskine.

The Davinci code.

"Le Tresors Maudit"

The inspiration behind Holy Blood and Holy Grail.

They are all looking in the wrong place.

Look for Geometry in the landscape.

It's all in my book .

Barney wrote:
Mafia conspiracy theories have been around for generations - relating to the Vatican.

Only because both emanate from Italy; significantly, no tangible evidence has been shown.

Partly perhaps - because of the Omerta practices of both large organisations.

Even more theories exist about Opus Dei - a highly secretive Catholic society, with the highest echelons of the clergy as members.




theories?

you need to speak to some credible Italian investigative journalists.

I recall it was the head of the FBI J.Edgar Hoover who once told the president JFK that The Mafia didn't actually exist. The same Mafia that probably murdered him ( a theory).

as always..Cui bono?

The mafia.
Sure.

However, most people who know the way things work will know there is often more than one benefactor from.such operations?


If Jack Ruby hadn't shot Oswald, the case wouldn't be so notorious?
The Warren commission said there two incidents were unrelated.

Jack Ruby said: Nobody will ever know the reasons for my actions ".

James R Leavelle ( officer upon walking Oswald to the basement said: " If anyone takes a shot at you, I hope they are as good a shot as you are." Which he explained as ( meaning I hope they shoot him and not me).

Gov. Connelly admitted ( more than once) he was shot by a separate bullet.

Video evidence does show it.

Why the single bullet theory gained so much attention is ridiculous.

I don't know anything really.
I'm just a benefit scrounger who sits on my ass all day.

There are a lot worse things to be...

Bookworm wrote:
The Davinci code.

"Le Tresors Maudit"

The inspiration behind Holy Blood and Holy Grail.

They are all looking in the wrong place.

Look for Geometry in the landscape.

It's all in my book .

you are mixing up fantasy with genuine conspiracies.


I blame the internet..it's watered down the whole notion of conspiracy that the Nutter Brigade can now make ludicrous claims and they either seep into the mainstream ( @pizzagate, Carl Beech & Elm Guest House and so on) or water down or neuter genuine conspiracies.


For years I've been banging on to editors that they must investigate the extraordinary but relatively unknown corruption in the Victorian Police. Mainly because I have a good Italian friend who is a crime journalist in Rome who has been studying the 'Ndrangheta for over 20 years..they work closely with the Cosa Nostra.( and The Vatican)

When I was moving to Sydney he said "you should look into Victorian Police..riddled with & corrupted by 'Ndrangheta" but Sydney editors just didn't believe it as the NSW Police were pretty corrupt but in a different way..no international gangs had infected them.
But as it's emerged only in the last few years..VicPoil are riddled by organised crime.

VIC News Mafia 'secret society' a threat to Australia, authorities warned

It was VicPol who launched..and then leaked to media ..they were "investigating" Pell yet no-one had made a compliant against him. As we know with Wiltshire Police you only had to announce that Ted Heath allegations were "credible & true" and the accusers will come forward.

I know of only 2 good journalists (out of dozens) who have questioned over & over this very weird aspect of the Pell convictions ..who say they have never heard of a similar situation. The sheer oddity of it when all Police units are underfunded and under-manned..no squad ever goes on such an obvious fishing expedition without at least a glimmer of a complaint to base it on.

Who in the higher-ups sanctioned such a trawling exercise?. Melbourne journos cannot find out (highly unusual when all coppers love to boast of their busts..especially a high Profile one like Pell ..or JK for that matter !! . But now it's all been lost in the mists of time.

Cuo Bono?

Only this year ..after the dozens of "Underbelly" murders was a new aspect of Victorian Police revealed: the lawyer (daughter of a judge) for many of the top criminals (all Mafia) was also a police informant. She was helping jail her clients. The clamour to nix the entire matter is intense. More people will die, many will go free from jail.

Lawyer X royal commission refuses to excuse Nicola Gobbo from giving evidence
The head of the Lawyer X royal commission has refused to excuse former gangland barrister-turned-police informer Nicola Gobbo from giving evidence to the inquiry despite her "deteriorating" mental state.

Commissioner Margaret McMurdo said she accepted Ms Gobbo was suffering from several medical conditions, but these were not a reasonable excuse for failing to give evidence The commission will allow Ms Gobbo to give evidence in two-hour sessions by phone Ms McMurdo gave Ms Gobbo a deadline of November to provide a sworn statement to the inquiry
Ms Gobbo is at the centre of the legal scandal that has already led to one murder conviction being quashed, but has not yet given evidence to the royal commission set up to examine her use as a human source.


Cuo Bono?

My pal in Rome even knows the name of the 2 hit men who were flown to Sydney from Scilily to kill this bloke but he drew a blank from VicPol when he told them they doubled up on jobs in Melbourne and knocked of a couple off errant gang members.

Ludwig’s mad world – the mystery of the $3 million heir
The saga of Ludwig Gertsch.
A body in the mountains, missing millions, contested wills, gay lovers - it became a book.

I'm mixing fiction with fantasy?
That's If you're assuming all of it is fiction and fantasy.

.

Well, I'm not here to spread the gospel that's for sure...

I believe Davinci and others knew of secrets.

I didn't mention Dan Brown though, did I? He wrote his piece whether it was opinion or fiction.
His starting point was based around Davinci ( who we know existed and was an extraordinarily talented man). People have a take on those things.

I always stick to using facts. We all reach different conclusions.

Life can be both a maze and amazing.


I simply won't sit back and accept what others tell me as true. It doesn't take me long to sniff out BS either.

Bookworm wrote:
I'm mixing fiction with fantasy?
That's If you're assuming all of it is fiction and fantasy.

.

Well, I'm not here to spread the gospel that's for sure...

I believe Davinci and others knew of secrets.

I didn't mention Dan Brown though, did I? He wrote his piece whether it was opinion or fiction.
His starting point was based around Davinci ( who we know existed and was an extraordinarily talented man). People have a take on those things.

I always stick to using facts. We all reach different conclusions.

Life can be both a maze and amazing.


I simply won't sit back and accept what others tell me as true. It doesn't take me long to sniff out BS either.


I'm sure there have been secret societies throughout history..powerful ones. Why wouldn't there be?

I'm a bit of amateur 'sleuth" on the JFK murder and really, of all the books I've read
The Hidden History of the JFK Assassination by Lamar Waldron provides very credible evidence of the Mafia killing JFK ( the New Orleans boss Carlos Marcello who apparently admitted it to an FBI informant while in jail) and the Warren Commission wasn't so much a "cover-up" more a hamstrung effort frustrated by various law enforcing elements..Hoover etc.

Marcello had the most to gain (cuo bono?) and the notion the CIA did it because of JFK's plan to withdraw from Vietnam never held much weight seeing JFK was a hawk in that matter.

I digress..clearly I have hit a nerve ...as my links have all been sabotaged !!!!

I may be silenced any day now. I could completely disappear.

## OK I filled in the links incorrectly but that doesn't change anything..they're on to me !!

### My journo & legal links in Victoria say the panic over the Pell conviction, failed appeal and so on has thrown the entire legal fraternity into a real dither..half just want it to all go away and the others are furious because of the implications. They all seem to have thought he would have not even got past the Magistrates Court and the fact Victoria doesn't allow Judge only trials is something they have been complaining about for years.

I blame George Soros. Why not?

George Pell was just a side show..a vicarious victim ..a diversion.

The real problem is the sheer number of Australian journalists (and their Parrots in the overseas' media) who disgracefully lapped up & promoted, often unconsciously, that Cardinal Pell as a powerful Vatican figure who must be guilty of something and therefore should pay the price for all the Church's sins.

## It is basically impossible to discuss the Pell case with 95% of Oz hacks..they literally turn on you and call you an "abuse excuser" & so on. The late Anna Raccoon knew the feeling.

### NOT ONE SINGLE Australian media outlet has reported on the appalling Peter Saunders' revelations.

When Saunders..3/4 years ago announced that George Pell ( a man he'd never met) was a psychopath it was front Page news in every Oz newspaper..lead the TV news broadcasts and so with endless follow-ups and interviews with Saunders.. a man accused of rape twice...being TREATED AS SOME SORT OF EXPERT ON CATHOLIC CHURCH ABUSE OR PELL'S HISTORY.

It was amazing to watch..and even more amazing to watch the downfall of the self admitted vulnerable victim druggist & seducer and twice accused rapist Saunders (not prosecuted.."believe the victim?")..a man who has made many varying claims about his own alleged abuse yet cannot cite a court conviction about it...one day a Hero In The Australian Media and the next..simply never mentioned.as though he never existed.

the Media Charabanc has moved on..it's turbocharged. Old news.

As Nikita Kruschev has famously alleged to have said to JFK : " how do you get your media to write the lies they do..we have to threaten ours with jail ?"


God's Bankers: A History of Money and Power at the Vatican
www.amazon.com/Gods-Bankers-History-Mone...KTN114WE65EZGQB0A1ED


Leading anti-mafia prosecutor appointed head of Vatican court
Giuseppe Pignatone takes up position after suspension of five senior officials
www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/03/an...ead-of-vatican-court

Cuo Bono?

Interesting link ( only one works).

I know nothing of the cases you mention.

I try not to get involved with things outside of my knowledge.

Seems like you are busy.

Marcello, yes. He was on trial at the time.
Things can be much simpler than many would have believe.

There will always be those who want to make a mountain out of a molehill though.

Digging around some things can cause nervous types to rattle, but that is the chance we take.

The dark forces have been after me for the best part of 3 decades.

I'm still here. I intend to see them all off.

I've been through too much to let the bastards get away!
Not to mention what they've done to others.

It's easy for me to do it! I enjoy it.

hedda wrote:
"you are mixing up fantasy with genuine conspiracies"


Just love this quote on so many different levels

What is a theory?

What is a genuine conspiracy?

Credibility is one thing.
Getting your conclusions past any officials is another.

As Hedda likely knows.

You can't have just anyone reporting stuff. A million people could all have knowledge, but seen only as a 3rd party.
I am always asked how I am connected to incidents I've reported, so, I tell them.

Bookworm wrote:
What is a theory?

What is a genuine conspiracy?

Or...

'What is the stars?'


(Juno and the Paycock; Sean O'Casey)

For anyone interested in the Davinci code and religion, you might be interested in a painting called The Netherlandish Proverbs.

Check it out. There is a list of the proverbs on wiki.

No 28 is my personal favourite.