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#194248
Jo

Jeremy Bamber 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
Jeremy Bamber lawyers challenge CPS over withheld evidence

MWT thinks Bamber is innocent.

"Years ago I made this programme about the #WhiteHouseFarmMurders that #JeremyBamber is in jail for . I am in regular contact with him & the evidence now available is compelling- that it was Sheila Caffell responsible for murder/suicide. youtu.be/_i2CjYDJGTo"
twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas/status/1203798908520022021

Bob Woffinden thought he was guilty.

I was wrong about Bambi killer, says crime writer who has unearthed chilling new evidence

"Bamber, however, still has all the cunning and ingenuity he displayed in his planning of the crime. Even after all these years, from inside a maximum security prison he has managed to construct a new credibility for himself, with his claims of innocence reaching an increasingly sympathetic audience."

I wonder if MWT in his regular contact with Bamber has been "played". Could Bamber have used the Savile angle to help persuade MWT of his innocence?

Did Jeremy Bamber kill his family 30 years ago? Make up your own mind, says local author Carol Ann Lee

"Carol spent three years corresponding with Bamber himself.... his correspondence gave her a good grasp of Bamber's character - or at least, of the character he wanted to project. "He was extremely pleasant in his letters. He's obviously well educated, he went to a good (public) school - Gresham's. He's very articulate, not a good speller, but very bright."... At one point, their correspondence touched on Jimmy Savile, and the way evidence of what he had done was 'covered up'. He felt like that about his own life, Bamber wrote to her: that the truth about what had happened had been covered up."

Now I know Bamber did it by Carol Ann Lee
 
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#194249
Barney

Re:Jeremy Bamber 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
If Bamber wasn't innocent, the police made it extremely difficult for him to prove that he was.

Having made the initial - and seemingly obvious - decision that it his sister was the killer, the police obligingly threw away most of the forensic evidence.

To help tidy up the farmhouse they said!

Also noteworthy is the sister's mental health history; she was a very troubled lady.

Whilst the police didn't set Bamber up - or falsify evidence - they destroyed it; drastically impeding the defence case.

Making false allegations has many similarities to destroying pertinent evidence - when it denies the accused the right to examine it.


Undoubtedly, this case needs to be looked at again - in the light of new forensic technology.

Sifnicant too that the Essex senior investigating police officers were transferred or resigned soon after the crimes.

Bamber has ran an external (to his prison cell) blog, for many years. Much of the allegations and evidence produced/made in court was provided by a jilted girlfriend.



 
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#194251
Bookworm

Re:Jeremy Bamber 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
It matters not whether people believe in his innocence or guilt, Jo.
The evidence is pivotal to securing any conviction. Jeremy's case is one of many surrounded in doubt and caught up in the tangled mess of the usual suspects in media who want a piece of the action.
In this case, the main furore seems to be around the phone calls made to the police from Jeremy and his father Neville.


I go into this more in my book. If you are interested, please follow the link in my post titled Book/Blog.
I cover quite a few criminal cases. Some obscure ones too.

MWT could learn a lot from my work. Like many though, he probably won't want to see it.
Makes no difference to me personally, but when people claim to be truth seekers, they shouldn't be upset when I call them Charlatans.
I have at least took the time to look at others work.

You can lead a horse to water...
 
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Barney

Re:Jeremy Bamber 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
Bookworm wrote:
the main furore seems to be around the phone calls made to the police from Jeremy and his father Neville

No - the 'main furore' and the one which makes this case virtually unique: The destruction of crime site evidence by the investigators (police) themselves.

Albeit erroneously.


Several new phone calls were uncovered since the trial, and ignored.

Notably the one from Jeremy to the police - later on the night in question - which raises many issues.

Logging thereof was conspicuous by its absence.


This case needs reappraisal. Even the senior officer in charge (who retired soon after) was barely on the farm - having concluded that the perpetrator was the unwell daughter.

Because the case was so clear, as to what happened - the Essex police helped Jeremy Bamber to wash the farmhouse!



(forget about your blog/book)


 
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#194257
Green Man

Re:Jeremy Bamber 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
I have read hundreds of true crime books over the years. I say about 5% of them say Bamber is innocent.
 
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#194262
Barney

Re:Jeremy Bamber 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
But you are enable to say why that might be - or to express your own view as to what happened?


 
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#194266
Bookworm

Re:Jeremy Bamber 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
Books, sources and opinions say many things. Rarely any convincing proof.
Moi, goes more in-depth.

@Barney Forget conspiracy nonsense.

My Book/Blog is picking up interest quite nicely.

Thanks for making your mind up before you've read it.
Ignorance helps nobody.
Wait until you have a problem!
 
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#194295
hedda

Re:Jeremy Bamber 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
without a doubt Bamber was unfairly tried and the media helped in painting him as the villain.

The fact relatives aided after the initial investigation..discovering "evidence" the police didn't is highly suspect especially when they financially benefited.

I however don't know whether he is guilty or not.

It's another example of why police have to be honest and thorough but for decades now they have told so many lies about people and gained so many convictions of the innocent, now the vast general public think they are corrupt.

Sounds like MWT is hitching himself to a wagon that's now gathering pace.

# remember he claimed Oscar Pitorious was innocent as the judge sent him down.
 
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