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#194256
General Election disaster 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
I blame Jo Swinson who was a total disaster; Jeremy Corbyn for not linking with the Lib Dems and dropping out in potential LibDem seats in exchange for LibDems dropping out in potential Labour win or hold seats; and the Remain organisation for not pushing the tactical voting element; a simple idea that would have worked.

Labour, LibDem and SNP should have joined 100% simply on the issue of Brexit.
 
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#194259
'M'

Re:General Election disaster 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
Do not worry JK, by this time next week the lookers will be asking for a second general election stating voters did not know what they were voting for.
The clever ones showed what being in a democracy means, it means honouring the outcome of the UK voting system.
 
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#194260
Carl

Re:General Election disaster 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
I'm absolutely delighted. A Tory landslide, good riddance to commie Corbyn. Goodbye EU.
 
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#194263
wyot

Re:General Election disaster 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
Well...

Aside from Brexit - which will be a disaster for all - this dreadful Tory Government will work better for me personally. The people have spoken clearly, rejecting anything left of centre to define politics for a generation.

Perhaps though given the size of his majority Boris will tone down some of the nastier stuff now. It will be interesting to see (and I predict disturbing) in 5 years time what/who arch Brexiteers start blaming for their woes and personal fears and anxieties once Europe has been taken from them as an existential threat...

I hope people like me are wrong; as the millions who voted Tory for the first time are the ones who will suffer under Brexit and their policies.

Viva democracy!
 
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#194268
Barney

Re:General Election disaster 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
The best Tory result since Thatcher.

Who managed the last annual Budget Surplus by a Conservative government.

30 years ago!


I wonder will we have to wait that long again?!


 
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#194270
hedda

Re:General Election disaster 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:
I blame Jo Swinson who was a total disaster; Jeremy Corbyn for not linking with the Lib Dems and dropping out in potential LibDem seats in exchange for LibDems dropping out in potential Labour win or hold seats; and the Remain organisation for not pushing the tactical voting element; a simple idea that would have worked.

Labour, LibDem and SNP should have joined 100% simply on the issue of Brexit.


It was Jo Swinson who refused to join with Labour in a coalition before the election.

It was Swinson who forced a General Election and she paid the price.

But she really sums up the state of UK politics..a completely ineffectual unintelligent woman radiating all the charisma of an old sock who really thought she could be Prime Minister. I mean really ..where are their heads at in the Lib Dems?

Fortunately as that perma tanned Aussie politician Andrew Peacock ( useless info: One time lover of Shirley McLaine .. Charles Dance played him in in a movie) when asked if he again would again lead the local conservative party.. "a souffle never rises twice"

Add to those Labour rebels..Blind Freddie (and me) could have told them they were destined for oblivion but again..an opportunist and Ultra Light Weight like Chuka Umanna..thankfully gone for good.

## And plaudits to Britain's alleged Jewish "community leaders" and the ghastly Chief Rabbi (friend of a proven racist) who have now alerted Britain's racists (and there are sooo many) that a once small fairly insular community who went about their business 99% untouched by racism is now exposed.

They too will feel the effects of quietly allowing a partisan political campaign to happen in their name..they too will be lumped in with black & Asian Brits as the "enemy". There is always a reaction to any action.

Good riddance to Luciana Berger who tried to ride in on a wave of false antisemitic accusations against a party that put her where she was (well not really..she stayed in "elite" London and was rarely seen in her electorate).
 
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#194279
Jo

Re:General Election disaster 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
"Betrayal is the cry of the Left against Labour in govt. Now we have seen the truth: Betrayal is when an in-credible, sectarian Labour opposition fails to provide a viable alternative to a distrusted Tory party. They get rumbled. The Tories win. The country loses."

twitter.com/DMiliband/status/1205334192105705473
 
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#194286
Carl

Re:General Election disaster 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
Fuck the EU. The real disaster would be remaining in the EU and being governed and dictated to by Brussells.

Good riddance to commie Corbyn and stupid Swinson.
 
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#194296
Blue Boy

Re:General Election disaster 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
The election was won and lost on one simple factor – TRUST, or more precisely lack of trust.

It is amazing to consider that in such a contest Boris Johnson would be the winner given his track record but out of all the election promises “Get Brexit Done” was the one that was both believable and ultimately believed. With majority win achieved it will actually be delivered albeit maybe in a longer time frame that suggested.

I believe Swinton and Corbyn are probably decent honourable people but for this campaign they followed the modern political advice of deny everything that could be considered a negative and over promise. The double standards and hypocrisy that was spouted by those two individual and their election team when in front of a TV camera was so blatant it was laughable.
 
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#194298
Re:General Election disaster 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
I think it's far more simple than that; if Labour and LibDems had formed an official anti-Brexit coalition, not standing in seats the other party could destroy the Tories, we'd now be seeing PM Corbyn.
 
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#194299
hedda

Re:General Election disaster 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
Carl wrote:
Fuck the EU. The real disaster would be remaining in the EU and being governed and dictated to by Brussells.

Good riddance to commie Corbyn and stupid Swinson.


I mean this in a caring and sharing way and with the greatest possible respect but you are a fuckwit Carl.

Also obviously completely ignorant about Communism.

Corbyn / Labour policies were how Britain operated 40 fucking years ago you pillock (that's a term of endearment Carl ).

Under both Tory & Labour governments.

Both Tory and Labour built massive social housing (Maggie did as well)..the trains were run by the government, were cheap and went EVERYWHERE.

The very rich paid a far greater share of their income in tax than Corbyn planned.(didn't they JK!) and although "tax exiles" were common (half my friends) they still became very very rich.

## It's why I love Graham Norton so much quite apart from his loveable personality- he pays full tax and said he is happy to as he said if everyone did the UK would be a much nicer country.

It's why it helps to be very old (going on 89 but looking at most 49) as we know how it used to be .
 
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#194300
Blue Boy

Re:General Election disaster 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:
I think it's far more simple than that; if Labour and LibDems had formed an official anti-Brexit coalition, not standing in seats the other party could destroy the Tories, we'd now be seeing PM Corbyn.

That proposal shows a complete lack of understanding of politics and the realities of trying to get agreement between two large beautocratic organisations in a couple of days/weeks after an election was called. Most politicians have egos, baggage and agendas that could never be reconciled by such a coalition and the fall out be vast.
 
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#194306
Rick

Re:General Election disaster 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
One of the most moronic trends has been for people to keep demanding re-runs when they don't like the result. That's a pretty damning sign of political stupidity. There was one spoilt twit on 5 Live demanding yet again another referendum 'because I just wasn't old enough for the last one and I'm angry about that'. So what happens if your wish is granted, oh cretinous one, and someone who just wasn't old enough for that one demands another one, and so on and so on? In a way such dolts deserve a Nietzschean eternal return but the sane people don't. And by the way constitutionally referenda CANNOT be binding - the only way to make the result de facto binding is to spell that out in the legislation for the referendum. And that wasn't spelled out in the EU referendum. What great minds failed to spot that? Bercow and all of his self-righteous mates who belatedly decided they were guardians of proper procedure. A lesson to be learned from all of this? Educate people how to think about politics in a rigorous and dispassionate way. Oh yes, and for god's sake grow up.
 
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