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RAPE on Jeremy Vine 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
I contributed below but they "ran out of time".

I went through a similar situation in 2001 when falsely accused of sex abuse. I was totally 100% innocent. But I was wrongly convicted; then spent 3.5 years in prison. At a second trial in 2001 I was acquitted and other false claims were dropped. In 2015 the police tried again. By this time I'd learned exactly what is going on. Through mainly media coverage of salacious sex trials especially involving celebrities, others leaped on the bandwagon - either deliberate in order to get compensation cash or genuinely reinterpreting historical events or for revenge or sympathy or love of fame. This time in 2018 I was able to prove all the claims false and I was completely acquitted and all future trials banned, but it took enormous effort to do so.

Sex claims are made for reasons ranging from genuine misunderstandings often involving drink or drugs to the other extreme like Carl Beech "Nick" for fame and money. When examined the vast majority are either pure invention or exaggeration and thus end in acquittal or being dropped. But the damage they do to the innocent is as bad as actual abuse. Victims of false allegations often kill themselves. Families are broken up. Careers wrecked.

From Cliff Richard, Paul Gambaccini and the dozens of Yewtree victims to the current crop of MeToo inspired accusations against Weinstein, Spacey, Kelly and others, to the hundreds made against dead stars like Michael Jackson; the vast majority are false or exaggerated.

The question to be asked should not be "why do so many rapes not result in conviction?" but "why are so many false allegations assisted by police - credible AND true - instead of provoking prosecutions of people trying to benefit by lying?".

False allegations are the boom crimes of this century.
 
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#194387
Bookworm

Re:RAPE on Jeremy Vine 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
'The question to be asked' is why did media that was partaking in hacking, intimidation and criminality (to an extent the public are still to be told of) at the forefront of exposing it?

How much of an input did those bastards have in getting you all locked up or prosecuted? Everyone is there for their disposal, or so they think.

A story came out recently about Max Clifford and his inquiry over his medical treatment. Big pharma will no doubt be pushed in prisons now!
They always find a way to exploit vested interests. When there is no oil.

JK, did you (whilst working at The Sun) ever feel like they knew what was being perpetrated against you? Did you get any snide remarks?
I mean we all know Rupert hates The BBC. Probably one thing I agree on. You were on the inside of both organisations.
 
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hedda

Re:RAPE on Jeremy Vine 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
Bookworm wrote:
'The question to be asked' is why did media that was partaking in hacking, intimidation and criminality (to an extent the public are still to be told of) at the forefront of exposing it?

How much of an input did those bastards have in getting you all locked up or prosecuted? Everyone is there for their disposal, or so they think.

A story came out recently about Max Clifford and his inquiry over his medical treatment. Big pharma will no doubt be pushed in prisons now!
They always find a way to exploit vested interests. When there is no oil.

JK, did you (whilst working at The Sun) ever feel like they knew what was being perpetrated against you? Did you get any snide remarks?
I mean we all know Rupert hates The BBC. Probably one thing I agree on. You were on the inside of both organisations.


Oh dear Bookworm I'm afraid you are ignoring, as I;m sure JK will atest, the absolute lack of morality in most journalists who live from pay cheque to pay cheque desperate to churn out a partisan article where truth is immaterial in order to salivate an often ghastly editor.

I must admit I did it myself often but they were harmless tales involving celebrities. I mean having a front page tale published in the Daily Star saying Boy George and his pal Marilyn were chased by a shark while on holiday in Bermuda doesn;t really hurt anyone even if no-one actually questioned why the two were terrified by Jaws when they were merely walking along the beach and not in the water? It paid the rent.

There was something about newspapers and being around them that was once incredibly exciting but they have become Pillars of Nastiness. I blame computers..it was so much more fun in an office with clanking typewriters but it's become an incredibly nasty business where truth left the building a long time ago.
I find journalists..and I know so many..appalling people these days and most are incredibly vicious because they are in an industry where they can be dispensed with asap. Most I know are begging to be pensioned off before their outlet goes bust.

Celebrity tales used to be fun and fairly harmless as you can see in JK's (what was the show called- Entertainment Tonight?) reports but today, any star could virtually be destroyed in a minute. Look at the Prince Andrew drama..he survives because he belongs to the most powerful family in the country but and slightly lesser souls would have been utterly destroyed now by the claims, real or false, of an ex-prostitute who admits she is going for the money.

I say being famous these days is a very risky business as the Worm Can Turn in an instant and sex now is a viscous nasty thing..long gone are the days a naughty Cynthia Payne could run a House of Ill repute in Streatham handing out Luncheon Vouchers with a clientele from plumbers to Lords and the media would report the saucy shenanigans to a delighted public. Now the knife goes in viciously and THERE IS A VICTIM in every tale and the public's blood lust must be sated.

And people think Jeffrey Epstein was murdered? Why wouldn't he hang himself knowing that the future was so bleak,
 
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Bookworm

Re:RAPE on Jeremy Vine 4 Years, 4 Months ago  
I can see how vile the media have become.
It's a case of screwing it up for themselves with phone hacking and stupidly upsetting people they thought couldn't fight back. Nobody really trusts them any more.
The same with authority and how contempt breeds when accountability is nowhere to be seen. We end up with a situation where everyone points at each other in the name of hypocrisy and everyone has a point.
One thing we must agree on is to be decent.

There is no point in being nasty. Throwing insults and nastiness achieves nothing.

I've seen many of the worst sides of life. What keeps me going is knowing I can change anything and I am prepared to work hard at it.

That is the only addiction I need!
 
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