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#195996
CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
Those very few who don't think the Emperor's New Suit is as nice as the last one (Brexit) or the other one (Harry&Meghan) or the PrinceAndrew model; read this to compare how the CoronaVirus (now over 2000 dead globally) compares with the 'flu effects in the winter of 2017-2018 in England & Wales only.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/30/wint...s-blame-ineffective/
 
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#195998
Barney

Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
The Hepatitis, AIDS, Poliomelitis, Measles, Leprocy, Tuberculosis, Malaria, Ebola and Yellow fever viruses killed many more - and the 2017/8 'flu death toll was because the wrong vaccine was issued here.

What's worrying about Coronavirus is the lack of knowledge about its makeup - and the inability to create a vaccine for it. Bearing in mind, recent advances in technology and techniques.

In addition, the ways by which it spreads are a mystery. Is it by human contact, airflow (in planes and ships) - or related to food and/or water? Or something else.

World Health Organisation predicts an eighteen month (possibly more) gap before a potent vaccine is available - after testing, production, distribution etc.


But, as usual, you blame the media!


 
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#196002
Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
Yes I do blame the media for taking a tiny problem and turning it into a global panic simply because, inflated & exaggerated, it's a "good story". And moronic members of the public who fall for it and seeth and howl in panic. This is simply another version of 'flu, lethal to the elderly (like me) and Diabetics (like me) but otherwise nothing serious. Pretending it's like Ebola does nobody any favours; punters who join in and Cry Wolf should simply shut up and keep quiet.
 
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#196003
Barney

Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
A tiny problem?

Some might think otherwise - like the World Health Organisation.


WHO figures this morning:-

2,250 dead in the last month

77,000 infected, in 30 countries



 
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#196005
Barney

Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
To briefly compare SARS to Cronavirus.


774 people died from SARS, in the 8 months to July 2003.

About 8,000 were infected, in 17 countries.


In less than 8 weeks, about 3 times as many have been killed by Coranavirus.

Over 9 times more have been infected in that shorter time - in twice as many countries.


So seemingly Coronavirus spreads faster, with a higher mortality rate.


 
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#196036
Barney

Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
New cases slowing down in China.

But increasing alarmingly and unexpectedly elsewhere.

In South Korea and Iran, particularly.


 
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#196039
wyot

Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
Yes and as cases are slowing in China they will slow elsewhere too Barney as it reaches a natural equilibrium then vaccine...

A type of strong flu...no need for Bruce Willis (or whoever!) just yet...
 
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#196072
md

Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
 
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#196078
Barney

Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
wyot wrote:
A type of strong flu...no need for Bruce Willis (or whoever!) just yet...


Why then the Red (maximum) alert statuses - just introduced in South Korea and Italy?


 
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#196080
wyot

Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
Death rate is between 1 and 2 percent once contracted, i.e 98.5 % survival (bbc news item...just buried beneath the hysterical headlines) and they suspect actually the death rate is lower due to the proportion of people developing v mild versions and not being diagnosed.

Hardly apocalyptic stuff...despite the headlines...
 
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#196081
Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
I'm sorry to be cynical and not obey media hype (as governments do) that this is worse than Ebola but it seems to me to be just a nasty, very infectious form of 'flu that 95% recover from. Like 'flu, the vulnerable, weak and elderly sometimes die.

Barney and the tabloids may be right; we're all going to die from this; it is spreading like wildfire, killing dozens. I think it's just another Emperor's New Suit.
 
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#196083
Honey

Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
I suppose the low death rate may be due to good medical care, which might not be available if we all get it?
 
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#196085
Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
Does 'flu need "good medical care" Honey?
 
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#196089
Honey

Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
weJK2006 wrote:
Does 'flu need "good medical care" Honey?


I don't know what they actually do, but you have to be at death's door to be admitted to hospital, so there must be some sort of treatment, or why bother?
 
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#196090
Barney

Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
Fine JK - just a few questions though:-


1. How many should be infected and/or die - before we should be concerned?

2. Are the WHO lying?

3. Is the absence of a vaccine worrying - and how the virus spreading?

4. Are the stringent quarantine regulations - of numerous countries - unnecessary?

5. Emperors new suit - or ignoring clear predictions from numerous international medical organisations; do you know of any that share your casual/laid back approach?

6. Finally - why have you been so confident, it's just a 'flu?


We all hope it is - but your certainly is surprising...



 
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#196097
Honey

Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
Another point is that the death rate from flu is despite every man woman and budgie being vaccinated against it, and there is no vaccine for this, so the death figures cant really be compared.


It irritates me that there seems to be no logic.

Either, it is a serious risk and needs containing, in which case they should make an actual effort instead of the ridiculous pretendy quarantine farce.

Or, it isn't really much of a risk, in which case they should shut up about it and stop whipping people into a frenzy.
 
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#196149
Barney

Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
Austria, Switzerland, Spain, Croatia and Tenerife now.



 
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#196151
Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
Barney we really don't need updates on which countries have got 'flu; let's just assume soon it will be everywhere; they will invent a vaccine; some will die; then another disease will come along and we'll all panic about that until the next one.
 
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#196152
Barney

Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
OK - JK.

But a vaccine is 18 months away (WHO).


And I've just cancelled my April trip to Washington DC.


 
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#196154
Re:CoronaVirus 4 Years, 1 Month ago  
Understandable; you might catch 'flu there.
 
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