but in case you missed it on the Vaccine thread, worth posting this link again. Thanks WYOT.

www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-dangerou...tter_impression=true

Again on the other thread the question is asked "how did the Swedish health care system cope?". I have no idea except that a doctor told me in his experience at the height of the Covid panic UK hospitals had 95% occupancy with people who didn't need to be in hospital at all; just bed rest at home. But were so terrified (by media) they took up space in wards thinking they were dying.

If they didn't need to be in hospital, why weren't they sent home?

Well might you ask but remember; thanks to the media, even a slight cough meant bubonic plague.

I know of people who were really in a bad way not admitted to hospital, and the advice to "wait until your lips are blue" before calling an ambulance doesn't sound very healthy.


What are they doing with the Nightingale hospitals? If they had people to staff them if infections increased, why cant they use them to clear the waiting lists?

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What are they doing with the Nightingale hospitals? If they had people to staff them if infections increased, why cant they use them to clear the waiting lists?

On a quick Google 3 of the 7 are now used as cancer screening units the rest are empty and pointless...sorry, "on standby".

Apparantly in March nursing leaders questioned where the actual staff were coming from?

The staff did not exist but the Gov had not checked; so on 30th March the Government issued a call for Airline cabin crew to volunteer to be "special health assistants".

Luckily this experiment did not need to happen because it turns out the media and Gov had pretty much invented the scale of the problem between them over a panicky few weeks.

The empty beds and Gov "solution" to staffing perfectly illustrate the media inflation and Government haplessness that has engulfed this farce.

And I am sure that nurses were overjoyed to learn that a weeks online conversion course, can in Boris and Dom's view turn cabin crew into Florence Nightingale...

I must be asleep.

Honey wrote:
I must be asleep.

I am afraid the horror will continue when you wake up Honey...

At the same time as we enter- according to our Chancellor - an "unprecedented recession" the Government has reduced the official death toll from Covid by about 5000...aprx 11% reduction.

They weren't really Covid deaths now. Red was red then, but is blue now.

The concept of Covid deaths is mutable.

How can we rely on the other death stats then?

Can we please have a closer look at "died with"?

Maybe we can get the number to zero...?