So let's just get this straight; only those with symptoms get tested. So, although thousands of asymptomatic people had Covid19 all year, the few with symptoms got tested and found positive. Winter arrives. People get winter colds, slight flu, coughs, sniffles etc etc. So get tested. WOW! Many are positive. Panic. More lockdowns. Stop the spread. It's growing out of control!!!

But is it? Are we simply not just seeing more positive tests due to similar symptoms leading to testing?

I'm sorry to be difficult but it seems so obvious to me.

Meanwhile very few seem to be dying. Surely THAT would be the alarm? If suddenly many more deaths take place. Thousands a day? Then panic. After all, though personally I think 450 dying a day from cancer for many past years OUGHT to have provoked panic - and the solution to that is so easy, so much less damaging than lockdowns - simply ban smoking - can anyone explain to me what this panic is all about???

How long before Hapless Matt or Bumbling Boris requests that the vast majority of those testing positive for Covid19 need not rush to hospital but can treat themselves at home? I may, of course, be wrong and almost everybody in hospital with Covid is at death's door, but common sense tells me this is not so and the vast majority do not need to be in hospital.

Today's "death rate" in France; slightly different to 6 months ago.

They need to stop pretending they can control this virus.

Most of those who die "with it" are at the end of their lives and on the way out with something. The younger ones tend to have health conditions brought on by over indulgence, lack of exercise and junk food (with a few exceptions, obviously...).

The biggest lesson from 2020 is to compare us to physically healthier societies (just look at Japan); the death difference may just be explained by us being so overweight and lazy a nation.

Stop telling us what we can't do and scare everyone into a 30 min walk a day min.

Do much more good.

Isn’t gaining and maintaining power the only thing that matters to most political players regardless of which side they’re on?

md wrote:
Isn’t gaining and maintaining power the only thing that matters to most political players regardless of which side they’re on?

I don't think it is the only thing that matters, but there is no history of those in power giving powers away unless compelled to or to gain in another way. This is another reason I despair at the supine attitude of most people I talk to about the erosion of our liberties.

The current crisis is the perfect answer to those who think history doesn't matter.

Wyot wrote:
md wrote:
Isn’t gaining and maintaining power the only thing that matters to most political players regardless of which side they’re on?

I don't think it is the only thing that matters, but there is no history of those in power giving powers away unless compelled to or to gain in another way. This is another reason I despair at the supine attitude of most people I talk to about the erosion of our liberties.

The current crisis is the perfect answer to those who think history doesn't matter.
I find it odd that on the same day that Keir Starmer announced his grand new devolution plans, he chose not to say a word about the plight of the Lorry drivers stuck at Dover and Folkestone.

md wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]md wrote:



I find it odd that on the same day that Keir Starmer announced his grand new devolution plans, he chose not to say a word about the plight of the Lorry drivers stuck at Dover and Folkestone.

He is a terrible disappointment, Starmer. As Rome burns, all he is concerned with is lining up the SNP for a future coalition.

He kicks the Government for their lockdowns not being hard enough and at the same time the economic effects of lockdowns. And does not reveal what he would do.

All pretty despicable in its way.

md wrote:
Wyot wrote:
md wrote:
Isn’t gaining and maintaining power the only thing that matters to most political players regardless of which side they’re on?

I don't think it is the only thing that matters, but there is no history of those in power giving powers away unless compelled to or to gain in another way. This is another reason I despair at the supine attitude of most people I talk to about the erosion of our liberties.

The current crisis is the perfect answer to those who think history doesn't matter.
I find it odd that on the same day that Keir Starmer announced his grand new devolution plans, he chose not to say a word about the plight of the Lorry drivers stuck at Dover and Folkestone.

Of course he has said nothing. He waits until it is all over and then preaches at us. Useless creature!

Honey wrote:
md wrote:
Wyot wrote:
md wrote:
Isn’t gaining and maintaining power the only thing that matters to most political players regardless of which side they’re on?

I don't think it is the only thing that matters, but there is no history of those in power giving powers away unless compelled to or to gain in another way. This is another reason I despair at the supine attitude of most people I talk to about the erosion of our liberties.

The current crisis is the perfect answer to those who think history doesn't matter.
I find it odd that on the same day that Keir Starmer announced his grand new devolution plans, he chose not to say a word about the plight of the Lorry drivers stuck at Dover and Folkestone.

Of course he has said nothing. He waits until it is all over and then preaches at us. Useless creature!

It's all part of the Great Reset.

Green Man wrote:
Honey wrote:
md wrote:
Wyot wrote:
md wrote:
Isn’t gaining and maintaining power the only thing that matters to most political players regardless of which side they’re on?

I don't think it is the only thing that matters, but there is no history of those in power giving powers away unless compelled to or to gain in another way. This is another reason I despair at the supine attitude of most people I talk to about the erosion of our liberties.

The current crisis is the perfect answer to those who think history doesn't matter.
I find it odd that on the same day that Keir Starmer announced his grand new devolution plans, he chose not to say a word about the plight of the Lorry drivers stuck at Dover and Folkestone.

Of course he has said nothing. He waits until it is all over and then preaches at us. Useless creature!

It's all part of the Great Reset.
While politicians are paid extremely well for playing their game, it seems that the task of responding to a life-threatening situtation has been left to a local community of unpaid volunteers.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9085453...d-lorry-drivers.html