I know nothing about medical matters. But "experts" tell me rare blood clots are often a problem caused by Covid. The Oxford AZ vaccine uses a small amount of the virus. It has suspected blood clot problems. Pfizer has none and does NOT use Covid aspects. Is this not a clue? I know nothing but I do have common sense and lateral thinking.

You’re not mad JK, it’s media and so called experts who are mad. Barney has a fucking screw loose !

Pakistan are using Sputnik V but never heard the mainstream media news mention it.

There’s seems to be case of related deaths with AstraZeneca jab.

I won’t have the jab nor will my partner; her parents have ignored all letters and texts about getting the jab.

Boris is a pathological liar and was probably injected with sugar water.

Vaccine side effects in a tiny (negligible) percentage is not unusual. No vaccines are completely risk free. But if people worry about the blood clot risk on that calculation they had better never leave their house as they are more likely to be killed by a falling tree...

Even I would say the risks from Covid far outweigh risks from AZ...How many more would have died "with" Covid & from Lockdown collateral damage but for our hugely impressive AZ roll-out? No brainer.

I will take it without hesitation.

So will I WYOT; so I have (though Pfizer). But that's not my question. My question was - surely the possible link between Covid and blood clots, however rare, may explain why the AZ jab is suspect and not the others.

JK2006 wrote:
So will I WYOT; so I have (though Pfizer). But that's not my question. My question was - surely the possible link between Covid and blood clots, however rare, may explain why the AZ jab is suspect and not the others.

Yes I suppose it probably does as scientists are now tentatively indicating they think there is a link. I just wouldn't agree - on the numbers of deaths we are talking about - that AZ is in any way "suspect" (not that I think you are saying this but the media is). Non story for me.

Anyone would think they were looking for reasons to make the whole thing happen again and lock us up, with twenty thousand people a day flying in with variants, and a fuss about something less deadly than aspirin, the pill, and covid itself.

Cant we just vaccinate everybody and never speak of it again?
There is no need for all the fuss.

Honey wrote:


Cant we just vaccinate everybody and never speak of it again?
There is no need for all the fuss.

Please run for office Honey; I will devote my life to you and will make a brilliant Campbell to your Blair?

Honey wrote:
Anyone would think they were looking for reasons to make the whole thing happen again and lock us up, with twenty thousand people a day flying in with variants, and a fuss about something less deadly than aspirin, the pill, and covid itself.

Cant we just vaccinate everybody and never speak of it again?
There is no need for all the fuss.

Great Reset !

Green Man wrote:
[quote]Honey wrote:


Great Reset !

Great story more like! Which the Gov have now caved into with the tortuous logic that AZ won't be given to the under 30s because they aren't going to die "with" Covid so why risk the 0.0000001 whatever it is chance of a blood clot?

Well why give them a Covid vaccine at all then? Since when did we start vaccinating people who don't need to be?

Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:


Cant we just vaccinate everybody and never speak of it again?
There is no need for all the fuss.

Please run for office Honey; I will devote my life to you and will make a brilliant Campbell to your Blair?

I will be Che Guevara and you can be Castro!

I already have the T shirt.

Honey wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:


Cant we just vaccinate everybody and never speak of it again?
There is no need for all the fuss.

Please run for office Honey; I will devote my life to you and will make a brilliant Campbell to your Blair?

I will be Che Guevara and you can be Castro!

I already have the T shirt.

Communism does not wor nor does capitalism.

Green Man wrote:
Honey wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:


Cant we just vaccinate everybody and never speak of it again?
There is no need for all the fuss.

Please run for office Honey; I will devote my life to you and will make a brilliant Campbell to your Blair?

I will be Che Guevara and you can be Castro!

I already have the T shirt.

Communism does not wor nor does capitalism.

Oh I don't know GM capitalism works pretty well for me...

Wyot wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Honey wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:


Cant we just vaccinate everybody and never speak of it again?
There is no need for all the fuss.

Please run for office Honey; I will devote my life to you and will make a brilliant Campbell to your Blair?

I will be Che Guevara and you can be Castro!

I already have the T shirt.

Communism does not wor nor does capitalism.

Oh I don't know GM capitalism works pretty well for me...

It worked for me until the leaders of the world decided to close my establishments that I worked in prior lockdowns. Vote Tories get New Labour

I think capitalism as a general system has proved to be the most stable and brought prosperity to the largest number; but yes no system is without casuslties. I make a huge distinction between a capitalist system and the current, hugely unhealthy corporate monopolies that run the world.

I think any system could work well if it was done ethically. It is the corruption that is the problem, not the ideas.

Honey wrote:
I think any system could work well if it was done ethically. It is the corruption that is the problem, not the ideas.

Quite it is people that introduce corruption; but I do think that systems such as capitalism and liberal democracy (yes when balanced and healthy) are preferable to say communism as they don't try and force an ideal world or pretend that people can be wholly "good" or "perfect". Every time in history this has been attempted, disaster has followed.