Brexit over. Covid over. Back to False Allegations. I have no idea whether Noel Clarke, Ryan Giggs or any other wealthy celebrities are guilty, Not Guilty or somewhere in the middle. These days, give someone a peck on the cheek and you're done for rape. Sign an autograph and you're serving seven years for sexual assault. Buy an 18 year old a drink and you're jailed for Attempted Abuse of a child. As long as they've got a few pennies. I've witnessed inmates in prison get large compensation sums for being abused by a vicar, doctor or foster parent who, they admitted to me they had never even met - just read about in the local paper. The crime of the century - the False Allegations Industry.,

I was reading something about them already knowing about the allegations before he got the award, so it makes you wonder if these things could be used for publicity?

Yes Honey often organised by police to flush more False Accusers out of the woodwork. Many false accusers are nervous about being sued (as with Savile - only after his death did dozens of compensation seekers claim he raped them in public in a public car park). But when media covers fresh claims, the bandwagon gets leapt onto.

JK2006 wrote:
Yes Honey often organised by police to flush more False Accusers out of the woodwork. Many false accusers are nervous about being sued (as with Savile - only after his death did dozens of compensation seekers claim he raped them in public in a public car park). But when media covers fresh claims, the bandwagon gets leapt onto.

I thought that everyone on this site would jump on this story and automatically assume that these were false allegations without knowing anything about them. They may well be false, we don't know. Secretly filming someone naked and then showing it to your mates is pretty nasty, but not sure what propositioning someone over dinner is. Does it mean asking her to come back to my place? Is that a crime? Relationships have to progress at some stage or else we will be all single for our entire lives.

As for Giggs, again he seems as quiet as a church mouse, I can't see him been violent. Very bad timing too, as he was about to lead Wales in to the European Championships. A lifetime ambition, one he never achieved as a player. Lets hope justice is done

JK2006 wrote:
Yes Honey often organised by police to flush more False Accusers out of the woodwork. Many false accusers are nervous about being sued (as with Savile - only after his death did dozens of compensation seekers claim he raped them in public in a public car park). But when media covers fresh claims, the bandwagon gets leapt onto.

I was thinking more of publicity for the product? Like if someone is in a film, gets accused, boom, publicity everywhere.

Robbie - I have no idea about either; everyone is capable of strange behaviour. But I do believe in the presumption of innocence even if media, police and judicial services have abandoned it. Honey; I'm sure nobody would want that kind of publicity; it can only damage projects. Except bent police and lawyers.

Honey wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
Yes Honey often organised by police to flush more False Accusers out of the woodwork. Many false accusers are nervous about being sued (as with Savile - only after his death did dozens of compensation seekers claim he raped them in public in a public car park). But when media covers fresh claims, the bandwagon gets leapt onto.

I was thinking more of publicity for the product? Like if someone is in a film, gets accused, boom, publicity everywhere.

I don't think anyone is saying to themselves, I must rush out to watch kidulthood, now that the lead actor has been accused of sexual assault. These allegations alone can destroy a career (e.g. Kevin Spacey, johnny Depp)

robbiex wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
Yes Honey often organised by police to flush more False Accusers out of the woodwork. Many false accusers are nervous about being sued (as with Savile - only after his death did dozens of compensation seekers claim he raped them in public in a public car park). But when media covers fresh claims, the bandwagon gets leapt onto.

I thought that everyone on this site would jump on this story and automatically assume that these were false allegations without knowing anything about them. They may well be false, we don't know. Secretly filming someone naked and then showing it to your mates is pretty nasty, but not sure what propositioning someone over dinner is. Does it mean asking her to come back to my place? Is that a crime? Relationships have to progress at some stage or else we will be all single for our entire lives.

As for Giggs, again he seems as quiet as a church mouse, I can't see him been violent. Very bad timing too, as he was about to lead Wales in to the European Championships. A lifetime ambition, one he never achieved as a player. Lets hope justice is done

I didn't say anything about the allegations, Robbie. I assume all parties are innocent until we know for sure.
My point was just that it is odd to know about an allegation and still give the award, unless there is a benefit to it somehow? I am just musing really.

I hadn't heard of the film Kevin Spacey was in, until he wasn't, and when I saw it I wished he was, because it was pretty feeble.

Not sure about negative publicity. A lot of people seem to have got a lot of mileage out of the Weinstein case despite not being at all involved.

This seems pretty damning.

www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/apr/29/...bullying-by-20-women

His lack of recall regarding inappropriate behaviour rather than outright denial that he'd never do something like that doesn't seem a great defence.

Not exactly scientific, I know, but I don't like the look of him.

Sadly Jo this is often the case; I was assured I'd have been acquitted in 2001 had I not had a crooked smile. Look at Savile after death! And poor Rolf, when media chose the right photos. We can all look like Vile Perverts when assisted by media selection or even photoshop. Even the Pope could easily resemble Jack the Ripper.

The role of certain publications is always worth examining. The Guardian with it long standing and noble support for battered wives and abused women has a total agenda. I preferred it when it fought against injustice and miscarriages of justice - no matter which side they were on. Times have changed.

This situation is still rescuable. All Clarke has to do to restore his reputation is get arrested this weekend and die in an unfortunate set of circumstances.

robbiex wrote:
Honey wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
Yes Honey often organised by police to flush more False Accusers out of the woodwork. Many false accusers are nervous about being sued (as with Savile - only after his death did dozens of compensation seekers claim he raped them in public in a public car park). But when media covers fresh claims, the bandwagon gets leapt onto.

I was thinking more of publicity for the product? Like if someone is in a film, gets accused, boom, publicity everywhere.

I don't think anyone is saying to themselves, I must rush out to watch kidulthood, now that the lead actor has been accused of sexual assault. These allegations alone can destroy a career (e.g. Kevin Spacey, johnny Depp)

Especially these days with social media.

However in the mid 1980’s when Allo Allo toured on London West End theatre’s. Gordon Kaye was involved in a sex scandal which almost jeopardise everything. I came back to the UK, I bought tickets for my family including travel, for them to see it. Allo Allo was even broadcasted in USA - it was a phenomenon.

I remember the lights going off, curtain rising and poor Gordon looking distraught for his scene. The whole audience stood up and did a standing ovation. He was tearful and some bloke yelled “what you do in the bedroom is no one business”. Not sure if he heard him but I gave that man a thumbs up. Gordon walked to the centre of the stage to give his thanks and appreciated the fact his fans didn’t care he was gay, but the media tried to kill his career.

Yes the show was good from memory but can’t remember the plot, I did get a wink from a leather boot clad gent.

I gather that Noel Clarke is accused of molesting whoever he was in the sex scene with, while it was being filmed?



I cant think of any other reason to cancel the final episode of the series.

Honey wrote:
I gather that Noel Clarke is accused of molesting whoever he was in the sex scene with, while it was being filmed?



I cant think of any other reason to cancel the final episode of the series.

Maybe ITV are scared from the Twitter mobs and Ofcom.

Good thinking Honey; any other reason seems absurd.

Sky have cancelled his contract, itv have pulled the final episode of viewpoint, but it is always the bbc who get this reputation for throwing people under the bus. You can still watch his episode of "Who do you think you are" on bbc iplayer and a few other programmes. Wonder how long they will be up for.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b093t1t9/w...ies-14-8-noel-clarke

robbiex wrote:
Sky have cancelled his contract, itv have pulled the final episode of viewpoint, but it is always the bbc who get this reputation for throwing people under the bus. You can still watch his episode of "Who do you think you are" on bbc iplayer and a few other programmes. Wonder how long they will be up for.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b093t1t9/w...ies-14-8-noel-clarke

I can't see it being up there for long, it probably be down by tomorrow morning. He will probably go down the memory hole.

robbiex wrote:
Sky have cancelled his contract, itv have pulled the final episode of viewpoint, but it is always the bbc who get this reputation for throwing people under the bus. You can still watch his episode of "Who do you think you are" on bbc iplayer and a few other programmes. Wonder how long they will be up for.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b093t1t9/w...ies-14-8-noel-clarke


You can watch the episode now as long as you have got catch up.
Catch up has magical properties that remove all offence.
Normal televisions do not.

We can freely see people being crushed to death in a stadium though, and it is being repeated on the news all day long.


The Actor has apparently admitted it and is promising to seek help and improve blah blah.

Might as well get rid of courts now. Job done!

Comments on his FB page seem to supportive overall completely different kettle of fish over on Twatter
I do think Twitter is the worst really of the social media sites, had my reservations about FB but
Twitter is just evil with its trending topics which enables troublemakers and activists to get their
agenda out. I do believe social media particularly the aforementioned Twitter didn't help op yewtree
at all, idiots were throwing names out left right and centre.
Lot of hateful creatures on Twitter from reading trends.
The day that site is no more will be a cause for celebration!

www.facebook.com/NoelClarkeOfficial