GUMFIGHTERS UK LIMITED Company Number 03887121 was Incorporated on 1 December 1999 and it was Dissolved on 13 December 2011.

Mark Williams-Thomas was in the Police from 1989 to 2000

He worked at GUMFIGHTERS UK LIMITED from 28th September 2001 to 31st October 2002

On 25th October 2000 he gave an interview to the Wirral Globe Newspaper

www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/7428952.gumfighters-at-the-ready/

"Mark Williams-Thomas, marketing manager of Gumfighters, added: "We are a franchise organisation which provides chewing gum pollution removal services to areas across the country.

"We use unique technology which is quiet, versatile and sympathetic to the many surfaces in typical town streets such as those in Halton.

"We're pleased to be working in partnership with Halton Borough Council to help combat the problem of gum pollution and hope that people in the area will also help us by throwing their gum in bins and not on the pavements."

It makes no sense that a highly experienced Police Officer would choose to leave the Police after 11 years to work for a Chewing Gum Removal Company.

Sounds like a tax fiddle.

pip2456 wrote:
GUMFIGHTERS UK LIMITED Company Number 03887121 was Incorporated on 1 December 1999 and it was Dissolved on 13 December 2011.

Mark Williams-Thomas was in the Police from 1989 to 2000

He worked at GUMFIGHTERS UK LIMITED from 28th September 2001 to 31st October 2002

On 25th October 2000 he gave an interview to the Wirral Globe Newspaper

www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/7428952.gumfighters-at-the-ready/

"Mark Williams-Thomas, marketing manager of Gumfighters, added: "We are a franchise organisation which provides chewing gum pollution removal services to areas across the country.

"We use unique technology which is quiet, versatile and sympathetic to the many surfaces in typical town streets such as those in Halton.

"We're pleased to be working in partnership with Halton Borough Council to help combat the problem of gum pollution and hope that people in the area will also help us by throwing their gum in bins and not on the pavements."

It makes no sense that a highly experienced Police Officer would choose to leave the Police after 11 years to work for a Chewing Gum Removal Company.

Exactly. I am sure there must have been other reasons.

Not suggesting anything untoward, but if I was a gumshoe detective investigating someone, it would raise suspicions.

The entire "why did MWT leave Surrey Police under a cloud" question has dogged him for two decades. Many rumours but very little evidence so far. If someone could discover some, we'd all be pleased. There is something very, very dodgy in his past. Not so much ghosts as monsters.

Mark Williams-Thomas is quoted in this article in the Guardian from 24 April 2013

www.theguardian.com/media/2013/feb/24/ma...-thomas-jimmy-savile

"As a police officer in Surrey, he would pass information to local reporters if he believed its disclosure was in the public interest. If those conversations happened today, Williams-Thomas would be facing arrest or suspension."

and

"Williams-Thomas has described himself as a "doer" during his 11 years in the force and was once told by a superior that he was a "nightmare to manage". Although his investigation into Savile was methodical, the former detective carries the air of a maverick who you can imagine becoming frustrated by the bureaucracy of modern-day policing."

JK2006 wrote:
The entire "why did MWT leave Surrey Police under a cloud" question has dogged him for two decades. Many rumours but very little evidence so far. If someone could discover some, we'd all be pleased. There is something very, very dodgy in his past. Not so much ghosts as monsters.

When he does documentaries he brags about his years in the police force, then he stops.

I wonder if he has paid off his silence to become a TV presenter ?

Green Man wrote:
Sounds like a tax fiddle.


At the very least!

Of course, it could just be that he desperately wanted to rid the world of gum for five minutes.

JK2006 wrote:
The entire "why did MWT leave Surrey Police under a cloud" question has dogged him for two decades. Many rumours but very little evidence so far. If someone could discover some, we'd all be pleased. There is something very, very dodgy in his past. Not so much ghosts as monsters.

Was it actually under a cloud though? Maybe he saw a money making opportunity elsewhere?

I mean, I cant imagine that laundering the streets is very lucrative, but perhaps there was something else?

Rumours of affairs. Rumours of the theft of a top of the range imported luxury car. Rumours of blackmail evidence on top cops.

Great find, pip2456. I can see why you might be suspicious, Honey.

MWT gives reasons for leaving the police in this interview from 2018:

www.mediamasters.fm/wp-content/uploads/2...dcast-Transcript.pdf

No mention of Gumfighters. Says that when he left he took up a role advising on police dramas. His IMDb page seems to indicate he started doing that in 2004. www.imdb.com/name/nm2519883/

Companies House says he was with Gumfighters from 28 September 2001 to 31 October 2002.

On 2 Sept 2009 this news item was published by the BBC

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8233636.stm

Mark Williams-Thomas did not appear to know what the law was on being naked in public, but he said he spent 11 years in the Police specialising in Major Crime and ended up on the Paedophile Unit, so why did he not know a basic part of the Law?

I think the only way to find out what his history with the Police is and his reason for leaving is to ask him when he is giving evidence under oath in a Court.

JK2006 wrote:
Rumours of affairs. Rumours of the theft of a top of the range imported luxury car. Rumours of blackmail evidence on top cops.

Years ago a friend of mine befriend a couple who imported very expensive and luxurious American cars 1950's Cadillac's, former Stockcars used in NASCAR and vintage Mustangs with her husband.

They finally stopped when the tax came knocking. I don't know the full details of their business or what they trying to do were they using them as tax write offs and setting up a company for £1 on Company House ? I wish I know the in's and outs of their plans.


How on earth is MWT a police adviser on crime shows like Waking the Dead ? He definitely knows the right people all for the wrong reasons.

Love to see him exposed, he needs an "auditing"

Honey wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Sounds like a tax fiddle.


At the very least!

Of course, it could just be that he desperately wanted to rid the world of gum for five minutes.


what-this.com/40435318/1/mark-williams-thomas.html

Williams-Thomas was a detective and family liaison officer with Surrey Police from 1989 to 2000.
On 27 November 1995, school girl Ruth Wilson aged 16 years went missing from her home in from Betchworth, near Dorking Surrey, England. Williams-Thomas was the family liaison officer for Wilsons case, stated that extensive searches across Box Hill had yielded no evidence to suggest she was killed or committed suicide. He also stated that he was sure Wilson was not abducted by a stranger. Williams-Thomas also stated that "From the experience I have had, I would suggest one of two things occurred. She either went up there to meet someone and has subsequently gone away, or she went there and died in some way."
In August 1997 Williams-Thomas was in charge of the child abuse investigation into school teacher Adrian Stark, the director of music at St Johns School, Leatherhead, Surrey. Three days after his charges relating to indecent photographs of children Mr Starks partly-clad body was found in the sea off Beachy Head, Sussex.
Between 2001 and 2002, Williams-Thomas was the marketing manager and a director of GumFighters, a "national chewing gum removal specialist". The company were hired by various councils to clean their streets.
In 2003 Mark Williams-Thomas was charged with blackmailing a funeral home director, after alleging that there were multiple bodies buried in unmarked graves. An article ran in a national Sunday paper describing the mass burials. He was subsequently acquitted.
In 2005, he set up WT Associates, an independent child protection consultancy firm.
In September 2013 MP Tim Loughton East Worthing and Shoreham Con made a statement to parliament in which he praised Mr Williams-Thomas for his modest but game changing ITV documentary that exposed Jimmy Savile.

pip2456 wrote:
It makes no sense that a highly experienced Police Officer would choose to leave the Police after 11 years to work for a Chewing Gum Removal Company.


The explanation may be simple as retiring policemen often invest their lump sum to generate an additional income to augment their pension. Usually the investment opportunity is sourced via an aquintenance encountered during their career or through a former colleague.

ImeldaM wrote:
pip2456 wrote:
It makes no sense that a highly experienced Police Officer would choose to leave the Police after 11 years to work for a Chewing Gum Removal Company.


The explanation may be simple as retiring policemen often invest their lump sum to generate an additional income to augment their pension. Usually the investment opportunity is sourced via an aquintenance encountered during their career or through a former colleague.

It does happen, then petty arguments happen then the company dissolves.

ImeldaM wrote:
pip2456 wrote:
It makes no sense that a highly experienced Police Officer would choose to leave the Police after 11 years to work for a Chewing Gum Removal Company.


The explanation may be simple as retiring policemen often invest their lump sum to generate an additional income to augment their pension. Usually the investment opportunity is sourced via an aquintenance encountered during their career or through a former colleague.

According to his Wikipedia page Mark Williams-Thomas was born on 9th January 1970 and he left the Police in 2000 so he would have been 30 years old when he left which is too early to get a pension.

pip2456 wrote:
ImeldaM wrote:
pip2456 wrote:
It makes no sense that a highly experienced Police Officer would choose to leave the Police after 11 years to work for a Chewing Gum Removal Company.


The explanation may be simple as retiring policemen often invest their lump sum to generate an additional income to augment their pension. Usually the investment opportunity is sourced via an aquintenance encountered during their career or through a former colleague.

According to his Wikipedia page Mark Williams-Thomas was born on 9th January 1970 and he left the Police in 2000 so he would have been 30 years old when he left which is too early to get a pension.

You sure he didn't work in Greece ?

Mark Williams-Thomas's Wikipedia page says "During his time with Surrey Police he was a specialist in major crime and child abuse"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Williams-Thomas

If he did specialise in major crime he would have been involved in investigating serious, dangerous and violent criminals.

So why has he then chosen to seek so much publicity and, with his unusual name and home address easily found with a simple Google search, why would he put himself and his family at considerable risk of retaliation from those criminals.

That does not make any sense either.

JK2006 wrote:
Rumours of affairs. Rumours of the theft of a top of the range imported luxury car. Rumours of blackmail evidence on top cops.
It's surprising, especially since he seems to have a knack for getting people's backs up, that no-one seems to have revealed anything publicly about him. As he's so critical of the police, one would think that someone such as an ex colleague would be motivated to reveal something about him if there was anything to reveal, e.g. leaving the police for reasons other than personal choice. He surely can't have blackmail evidence on everyone, assuming there's any substance to the rumours.