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TOPIC: Climate Change
#215087
Climate Change 3 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
What worries me about COP26 and Glasgow is that it reflects the bane of humanity at the moment; SIMPLIFICATION.

Protesters outside scream "Stop all fossil fuels NOW". "Stop all deforestation NOW". Media demands total change by all countries. NOW.
Why? Because they simply cannot understand that this is perfectly possible for some countries and not at all for others.
It strikes me the only sensible country is CHINA. Gradual change. Move from fossil and others to less damaging energy.
Support poorer countries to change too.

One extreme or the other - makes no sense.
The world is changing and humanity needs to adapt. Slowly but surely; mainly looking to the future.

But that's not "a good story". That doesn't fit the agenda.
 
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Green Man

Re:Climate Change 3 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
JK2006 wrote:
What worries me about COP26 and Glasgow is that it reflects the bane of humanity at the moment; SIMPLIFICATION.

Protesters outside scream "Stop all fossil fuels NOW". "Stop all deforestation NOW". Media demands total change by all countries. NOW.
Why? Because they simply cannot understand that this is perfectly possible for some countries and not at all for others.
It strikes me the only sensible country is CHINA. Gradual change. Move from fossil and others to less damaging energy.
Support poorer countries to change too.

One extreme or the other - makes no sense.
The world is changing and humanity needs to adapt. Slowly but surely; mainly looking to the future.

But that's not "a good story". That doesn't fit the agenda.


They all know COP26 ia a Cop Of Shit.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1015575...urgh-COP26-base.html

metro.co.uk/2021/11/09/cop26-green-party...ate-summit-15569744/

countercurrents.org/2021/11/400-private-...ens-would-in-a-year/

Why didn't they use Zoom like we had to for work ?`

 
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#215093
Wyot

Re:Climate Change 3 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
The extremes and virtue signalling are why it won't work. It needs to be de-politicised, somehow. Like criminal justice needs to be. Like Covid should have been. I increasingly suspect that democracy in the age of twitter will be the ruin of us all....
 
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#215156
hedda

Re:Climate Change 3 Weeks ago  
agree.

And those annoying media tales of powerful people or movie stars flying in private jets as though it's hypocrisy which is nonsense.

The whole idea is to sustain and improve our way of life whilst tackling climate change.

And we should take a clue from China and India. Both surging ahead with renewable energy (whilst using fossil fuels) and will be way ahead of the rest of the world in 20 years.
 
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Martin

Re:Climate Change 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
hedda wrote:
And we should take a clue from China and India. Both surging ahead with renewable energy (whilst using fossil fuels) and will be way ahead of the rest of the world in 20 years.


In 20 years - without urgent action now - a 1.5° increase in temperature will have occurred.

Most coral reefs will be virtually gone, with flooding and heatwaves happening regularly.

Agriculture will be curtailed and the world's future and economic plight will be in serious jeopardy.
 
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