A council is considering restricting the number of takeaways people can order to tackle obesity:

www.gbnews.uk/news/takeaway-restrictions...in-lancashire/164952

You didn't think state interference in what was previously matters of personal freedom would end with Covid did you?

Watch this stuff escalate....

"You will own nothing and you will be happy"

Green Man wrote:
"You will own nothing and you will be happy"

Well they will still own some takeaways to be fair..

In my view they need to restrict unit numbers sold rather than - say - only selling to those wearing red badges on Tuesdays & Thursdays. Because you can just buy in bulk on your alloted day and heat the curries and kebabs up...

But if obesity doesn't shrink then we may have to look at stricter measures; such as strapping the portly to treadmills and tickling their bottoms with feather dusters to encourage movement...

Wyot wrote:
Green Man wrote:
"You will own nothing and you will be happy"

Well they will still own some takeaways to be fair..

In my view they need to restrict unit numbers sold rather than - say - only selling to those wearing red badges on Tuesdays & Thursdays. Because you can just buy in bulk on your alloted day and heat the curries and kebabs up...

But if obesity doesn't shrink then we may have to look at stricter measures; such as strapping the portly to treadmills and tickling their bottoms with feather dusters to encourage movement...

Let people indulge on anything they want, however don't moan if you do get fat it's not that NHS will help you anyway these days. However the councils and government should just fuck right off. Leave us peasants and paupers alone, and not all of us go to Davos every year.

Or they could just restrict the number of takeaways and restaurants in one place, to encourage less eating out and more shopping?

Honey wrote:
Or they could just restrict the number of takeaways and restaurants in one place, to encourage less eating out and more shopping?

Or they could just let people eat whatever they choose to; having informed them about healthy options.

Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:
Or they could just restrict the number of takeaways and restaurants in one place, to encourage less eating out and more shopping?

Or they could just let people eat whatever they choose to; having informed them about healthy options.

I am not sure about this, Wyot. Of course, in general yes, butt out of what people eat, but the right of manufacturers of rubbish food, and the right of takeaway and restaurant owners, shouldn't take away what should be a basic right to eat pure unadulterated food if we choose to.

Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:
Or they could just restrict the number of takeaways and restaurants in one place, to encourage less eating out and more shopping?

Or they could just let people eat whatever they choose to; having informed them about healthy options.

What happens if we go to another lockdown, takeaways and companies like Deliveroo get even more richer.

Honey wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:
Or they could just restrict the number of takeaways and restaurants in one place, to encourage less eating out and more shopping?

Or they could just let people eat whatever they choose to; having informed them about healthy options.

I am not sure about this, Wyot. Of course, in general yes, butt out of what people eat, but the right of manufacturers of rubbish food, and the right of takeaway and restaurant owners, shouldn't take away what should be a basic right to eat pure unadulterated food if we choose to.

You are probably right that there should sensibly be limits on how much crappy food is available in any one area.

Against this,though, we are free to buy fresh products and cook ourselves healthy food (to varying abilities I know); also we can voice a desire for healthier food outlets, vote with our wallets and we will see change.

It goes to the heart doesn't it of how far the state is responsible for us or we are? I fear currently there is far too much emphasis on the state, which infantilises us. Additionally, top down controls are largely poor at affecting change anyway.

Green Man wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:
Or they could just restrict the number of takeaways and restaurants in one place, to encourage less eating out and more shopping?

Or they could just let people eat whatever they choose to; having informed them about healthy options.

What happens if we go to another lockdown, takeaways and companies like Deliveroo get even more richer.

Not in the long term as we will all die of Covid (lockdowns don't work) or heart attacks from blocked arteries or - I confidently predict! - a new condition for 2022 where large numbers start to die of boredom...

Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:
Or they could just restrict the number of takeaways and restaurants in one place, to encourage less eating out and more shopping?

Or they could just let people eat whatever they choose to; having informed them about healthy options.

I am not sure about this, Wyot. Of course, in general yes, butt out of what people eat, but the right of manufacturers of rubbish food, and the right of takeaway and restaurant owners, shouldn't take away what should be a basic right to eat pure unadulterated food if we choose to.

You are probably right that there should sensibly be limits on how much crappy food is available in any one area.

Against this,though, we are free to buy fresh products and cook ourselves healthy food (to varying abilities I know); also we can voice a desire for healthier food outlets, vote with our wallets and we will see change.

It goes to the heart doesn't it of how far the state is responsible for us or we are? I fear currently there is far too much emphasis on the state, which infantilises us. Additionally, top down controls are largely poor at affecting change anyway.

I dont want state control either, Wyot, but "state" is being replaced by giant businesses who decide instead, and we didn't even vote for them!

Food is so adulterated now (because there is more profit in it) that I can no longer easily buy basic items like lamb shanks.
For every fifty covered in sauce or seasoning, there might be only one basic raw with nothing added.

(I haven't actually counted, but we have to drive to bloody Cheshire )

In America, the situation is quite serious for those with allergies, because even plain yogurt only comes with additives. That would be fine, for anyone that wanted it, as long as the original product is available too.
I would hate it to get that bad here.

As for takeaways, great, as long as they don't push out all the food shops, which has happened near me.

Honey wrote:
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[quote]Honey wrote:
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[quote]Honey wrote:


Food is so adulterated now (because there is more profit in it) that I can no longer easily buy basic items like lamb shanks.
For every fifty covered in sauce or seasoning, there might be only one basic raw with nothing added.



I agree with you Honey that we don't want to see this but are we really that near to it?

Unless things are radically different in Liverpool to Surrey I have no problem in the supermarket (and sometimes butchers or fishmongers) getting unadulterated (no sauce or seasoning as you say) lamb, beef, poultry or fish. I cook regularly and use fresh vegetables with everything.

If I make a sauce I make it from scratch. There are so many simple, delicious sauces you can whip up quickly using basic French techniques of butter/cream and chicken stock and herbs....or a simple tomato salsa.....

It may be that money creates a distinction, but I also think that is a bit of a false distinction as you can get 2 mackeral fillets in my local supermarket cheaper than an Indian ready meal...

Wyot wrote:
[quote]Honey wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Honey wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:


Food is so adulterated now (because there is more profit in it) that I can no longer easily buy basic items like lamb shanks.
For every fifty covered in sauce or seasoning, there might be only one basic raw with nothing added.



I agree with you Honey that we don't want to see this but are we really that near to it?

Unless things are radically different in Liverpool to Surrey I have no problem in the supermarket (and sometimes butchers or fishmongers) getting unadulterated (no sauce or seasoning as you say) lamb, beef, poultry or fish. I cook regularly and use fresh vegetables with everything.

If I make a sauce I make it from scratch. There are so many simple, delicious sauces you can whip up quickly using basic French techniques of butter/cream and chicken stock and herbs....or a simple tomato salsa.....

It may be that money creates a distinction, but I also think that is a bit of a false distinction as you can get 2 mackeral fillets in my local supermarket cheaper than an Indian ready meal...

The ways things are going with prices, the only way to get mackrel would be to go on a dinghy with nets and a fishing out. You may even get a ride home by the RNIL or stay in a 5 star hotel on a country manor all at the taxpayers expense.

Wyot wrote:
[quote]Honey wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Honey wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:


Food is so adulterated now (because there is more profit in it) that I can no longer easily buy basic items like lamb shanks.
For every fifty covered in sauce or seasoning, there might be only one basic raw with nothing added.



I agree with you Honey that we don't want to see this but are we really that near to it?

Unless things are radically different in Liverpool to Surrey I have no problem in the supermarket (and sometimes butchers or fishmongers) getting unadulterated (no sauce or seasoning as you say) lamb, beef, poultry or fish. I cook regularly and use fresh vegetables with everything.

If I make a sauce I make it from scratch. There are so many simple, delicious sauces you can whip up quickly using basic French techniques of butter/cream and chicken stock and herbs....or a simple tomato salsa.....

It may be that money creates a distinction, but I also think that is a bit of a false distinction as you can get 2 mackeral fillets in my local supermarket cheaper than an Indian ready meal...

It is vastly different, yes. most butchers here now sell a mixture of cooked meat, pies etc, sometimes chips, and raw meat covered in sauce.
Fruit shops are very nearly obsolete. It is such a shame.

Honey wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Honey wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Honey wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:


Food is so adulterated now (because there is more profit in it) that I can no longer easily buy basic items like lamb shanks.
For every fifty covered in sauce or seasoning, there might be only one basic raw with nothing added.



I agree with you Honey that we don't want to see this but are we really that near to it?

Unless things are radically different in Liverpool to Surrey I have no problem in the supermarket (and sometimes butchers or fishmongers) getting unadulterated (no sauce or seasoning as you say) lamb, beef, poultry or fish. I cook regularly and use fresh vegetables with everything.

If I make a sauce I make it from scratch. There are so many simple, delicious sauces you can whip up quickly using basic French techniques of butter/cream and chicken stock and herbs....or a simple tomato salsa.....

It may be that money creates a distinction, but I also think that is a bit of a false distinction as you can get 2 mackeral fillets in my local supermarket cheaper than an Indian ready meal...

It is vastly different, yes. most butchers here now sell a mixture of cooked meat, pies etc, sometimes chips, and raw meat covered in sauce.
Fruit shops are very nearly obsolete. It is such a shame.

Wow sorry to hear this; I feel a bit naieve now this morning...