Why is no one asking the obvious questions of Government: why are ambulances queueing once again like a seasonal pantomime? Why will we have to lockdown after Christmas to help a NHS that can't cope with a seasonal upturn in a cold virus?

It is becoming clearer by the day that this whole thing is about the NHS. The Government are responsible for the NHS. The media and opposition for holding the Gov to account.

Start doing your fucking jobs. All of you. NOW.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59682075

This may be a factor?


news.sky.com/story/covid-19-entirely-pos...uary-whitty-12497234

Half Whitty is not to be believed.

JK2006 wrote:
Half Whitty is not to be believed.

They are only testing random samples for owhatacon, so it is bound to be much higher.
It might be too trivial to worry about though.

Honey wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
Half Whitty is not to be believed.

They are only testing random samples for owhatacon, so it is bound to be much higher.
It might be too trivial to worry about though.

Yep we'll see Honey. I'm sure it may well be a super spreader but it is spreading cold symptoms. A lot of genuine people will require some health attention and others will panic. Bottom line we will be locked down not to save lives but to save politicians blushes that the NHS can't cope anymore.

Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
Half Whitty is not to be believed.

They are only testing random samples for owhatacon, so it is bound to be much higher.
It might be too trivial to worry about though.

Yep we'll see Honey. I'm sure it may well be a super spreader but it is spreading cold symptoms. A lot of genuine people will require some health attention and others will panic. Bottom line we will be locked down not to save lives but to save politicians blushes that the NHS can't cope anymore.

I suppose they are not actually lying about the impact of it on the crap NHS, because even if we all got a normal cold at the same time, enough of us would get seriously ill from it to fill the hospitals.

But instead of expecting us to alter our behaviour, why don't they sort out the NHS?

They have had two years to plan for it, and anyway, colds have always existed, yet they pulled down those pseudo emergency hospitals and are due to fire the staff who don't want forced medical intervention.
That doesn't sound very helpful to me!

If the NHS doesn't work, it is because the government doesn't want it to.

Honey wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
Half Whitty is not to be believed.

They are only testing random samples for owhatacon, so it is bound to be much higher.
It might be too trivial to worry about though.

Yep we'll see Honey. I'm sure it may well be a super spreader but it is spreading cold symptoms. A lot of genuine people will require some health attention and others will panic. Bottom line we will be locked down not to save lives but to save politicians blushes that the NHS can't cope anymore.

I suppose they are not actually lying about the impact of it on the crap NHS, because even if we all got a normal cold at the same time, enough of us would get seriously ill from it to fill the hospitals.

But instead of expecting us to alter our behaviour, why don't they sort out the NHS?

They have had two years to plan for it, and anyway, colds have always existed, yet they pulled down those pseudo emergency hospitals and are due to fire the staff who don't want forced medical intervention.
That doesn't sound very helpful to me!

If the NHS doesn't work, it is because the government doesn't want it to.

It's part of the plan, I told you this from the start.

Honey wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Honey wrote:
[quote]JK2006 wrote:


But instead of expecting us to alter our behaviour, why don't they sort out the NHS?



Precisely my point and view now.

No I don't think they have lied about NHS capacity concerns and pre vaccine there was always an argument for lockdowns because of serious illness (never made properly by anyone on a cost benefit analysis but it was there - for the articulate and analytical - so sit back down Barney...).

Now with this new even milder virus and vaccines the reason for all this is nakedly NHS capacity.

When will the media start asking questions about the real issues rather than straining to make this look like a killer virus still....?

JK2006 wrote:
Half Whitty is not to be believed.

That bloke is so fucking strange and lifeless. He probably hates Christmas because he is never invited to parties.

He is probably still a virgin and has no one to buy to gifts for. He wants us to be like him. Unhappy, boring and sexless.

Honey wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Honey wrote:
[quote]JK2006 wrote:


If the NHS doesn't work, it is because the government doesn't want it to.

You assume it currently has the capacity to make anything work?

Wyot wrote:
[quote]Honey wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Honey wrote:
JK2006 wrote:


If the NHS doesn't work, it is because the government doesn't want it to.

You assume it currently has the capacity to make anything work?

winteroak.org.uk/2020/10/05/klaus-schwab...great-fascist-reset/

Wyot wrote:
[quote]Honey wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Honey wrote:
JK2006 wrote:


If the NHS doesn't work, it is because the government doesn't want it to.

You assume it currently has the capacity to make anything work?

ambulances are close to my heart having had need for several over the last 2 years.

Especially when the "first responders" can administer lovely Morphine (doesn't make me high..a depressive drug but wonderful pain killer).

Helped by the fact elective surgery was mainly cancelled and despite Covid cases in hospitals, the usually good service was excellent.

The problem here is the NHS in current form. Australia's medicare was modeled exactly on the NHS & implemented in the early 70S.

A right wing government dissolved it after 3 years but when defeated it was re-introduced again in the late 70s and has remained ever since.

But one thing is different: not one aspect of Oz's Medicare has been privatized like the NHS (ghastly Tony Blair).

And that's why it runs smoothly. And no government, either left or right dares to tinker with it..rather they compete fiercely at elections to increase funding etc.

A right wing State government may battle a left wing Federal government for more funding and visa versa.

Clearly the NHS is much loved by the Brits but so many other factors overwhelm people & Wolf's in Sheep's Clothing like Blair and Starmer betray their base on the NHS.

Of course it's all about funding. Despite plenty of private medicine getting to see your local GP in Oz is a doddle.

It's free at point of service (but everyone pays a small weekly tax) and doctors are reimbursed and earn huge sums.

Our Government gave billions to private health care firms to deal with non-Covid related health issues during the great panic of 2020. Most of the doctors couldn't help though because most are contracted to the NHS primarily and were working there, or sat at home during the ping-demic phase. We have not re-couped the money for tax-payers.

We are run by idiots currently. Aus by authoritarian hysterics, so far as I can make out..