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TOPIC: Al Fayed
#248084
Al Fayed 3 Weeks ago  
Latest "sue a dead person's estate for millions" kicks in assisted by the BBC "great story". All evidence shredded of course except transcripts illustrating someone "trying it on". By someone who decided not to mention the serious claims at the time. The whole thing stinks. As does so much else in this century.
 
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#248089
Jo

Re:Al Fayed 3 Weeks ago  
There's mention of a 15 year-old victim and I was wondering what a 15 year-old was doing working at Harrods, but she was apparently shopping with her mother, according to this 2008 report.

Police question Fayed after sexual assault claim by girl, 15

It seems that the Met police were responsible for making it public that they'd questioned Al Fayed under caution, which they appeared to do as it was happening via Mark Williams-Thomas on Twitter when they questioned Rolf Harris under caution four years later.
 
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#248095
robbiex

Re:Al Fayed 3 Weeks ago  
These rumours and allegations have been around for years. Vanity Fair were about the reveal a story back in the 1997 and there was an ITV documentary in 1997. I don't know why it has suddenly re-surfaced
 
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#248098
Downing Street Cat

Re:Al Fayed 3 Weeks ago  
Since when was it okay to accuse dead men of being rapists? Maybe because the victims know there will always be idiots ready to believe it. Big Harrods compo no doubt.
 
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#248118
Simon

Re:Al Fayed 3 Weeks ago  
In the item today published by BBC News there was a sentence quite close to the start of the article which I found rather disturbing;

"Harrods current owners said they were 'utterly appalled' by the allegations and that his victims had been failed - for which the store sincerely apologised."

When this story was first published today they omitted the word "allegations" before adding it shortly after. But despite this the sentence still refers to his victims having been failed. They are alleged victims, but the BBC item and the current owners appear to have instantly convicted the man and given the apology.

It may well be all true, it might all be untrue. I have no idea. But we are supposed to have due process in this country and a presumption of innocence until proven otherwise in a court of law. It's risky being dead nowadays, you can trash a late person with ease and no comeback.


www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz6x635wpjxo
 
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#248125
Green Man

Re:Al Fayed 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
Downing Street Cat wrote:
Since when was it okay to accuse dead men of being rapists? Maybe because the victims know there will always be idiots ready to believe it. Big Harrods compo no doubt.

It's bonkers that they had years to come up with allegations. Dead people can't defend themselves or face trial. With enough noise and crowd gatherings, they have could ruined his reputation sooner.


No doubt he was a sleazeball but women do love money and
guys who have it. Not forgetting some people can pick naivety vibes from others, so he probably picked up gullible women.
 
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#248126
Yeksum

Re:Al Fayed 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
Oh and guess how has turned to to claim the credit, get some attention and line his pockets! www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/i-tried-snare-mohamed-al-33709433
 
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#248127
Rich

Re:Al Fayed 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
Fayed lived to last year at 94, so these people had a lot of time to make their accusations. But it feels like a deliberate wait until he'd passed away before doing so. In their defence maybe Fayed was highly litigious in his lifetime against such accusations.

Who's next?

There is one person I am very worried about who I hope has many years ahead of him and isn't going anywhere soon. He's already been grievously wronged by the BBC and received compensation, and was blameless. BUT....I just can't help but feel concerned that when he is no longer with us any longer there will be malicious types coming out the woodwork to renew fictitious claims about Cliff Richard and that the media will lap it up if so, or even start dredging around with a trawling operation all over again after he passes. I hope I'm wrong and simply overthinking it.
 
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#248136
hedda

Re:Al Fayed 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
I can't recall Private Eye who regularly sent up Mr Fayed ever mentioning tales of abuse.

I worked for a time for his brother-in-law Adnan Kashoggi who funded Fayed in Harrods. Kashoggi was a perfect gentleman.
 
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#248143
Re:Al Fayed 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
There's money in it - and a GREAT STORY!
 
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#248144
Re:Al Fayed 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
How can Mark Williams Thomas get so supported by the Mirror and by ITV?

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/i-tried-snare-mohamed-al-33709433
 
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#248146
hedda

Re:Al Fayed 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
MWT rowing himself into the action as Fayed may replace the terrifying Savile entity as Britain's worst sex offender.
 
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#248147
Re:Al Fayed 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
Yes Rich the rumour mill has said for years Cliff remains an MWT target when dead (when Cliff is dead, not Mark Williams Thomas). I hear he's furious he wasn't allowed to do the Exposure of Al Fayed (with ITV and the Mirror). But Lady Karma is hovering above MWT. I also hear much about his ex wife.
 
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#248148
Jo

Re:Al Fayed 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
Yeksum wrote:
Oh and guess how has turned to to claim the credit, get some attention and line his pockets! www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/i-tried-snare-mohamed-al-33709433
He writes:

"I now believe that had my investigation and the police probe taken place in 2012, shortly after I helped unmask Jimmy Savile as a paedophile, the CPS would have gone ahead with the prosecution. But by 2016, the tide had turned following a number of embarrassing acquittals in high-profile cases."

Wonder which cases he's referring to and why acquittals should be embarrassing, unless he thinks the people concerned should have been convicted.
 
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#248154
robbiex

Re:Al Fayed 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
They did make the allegations years ago when the alleged events allegedly happened. I don't think anyone here has actually seen the documentary. As I said before there was a Vanity Fair article that was shelved and an ITV Documentary in 1997 that reported on these allegations. The accusers were made to shred all evidence and made to sign an NDA on receipt of a pay-off.
 
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#248157
Stella

Re:Al Fayed 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
JK2006 wrote:
Yes Rich the rumour mill has said for years Cliff remains an MWT target when dead (when Cliff is dead, not Mark Williams Thomas). I hear he's furious he wasn't allowed to do the Exposure of Al Fayed (with ITV and the Mirror). But Lady Karma is hovering above MWT. I also hear much about his ex wife.

Someone needs to take a big detailed look into the background of Mr Williams Thomas. Your comment that he fancies his chances with Cliff when he can't answer back for himself shocks me. How cynical. What are this man's real motivations. If he has any evidence against anyone that he thinks can stack up then present it now, not later. It's not a brave investigator, it's cowardice otherwise.

If any of my former bosses had sexually assaulted or raped me then I would wish to see them accountable while alive, not dead.
 
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#248163
Wyot

Re:Al Fayed 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
JK2006 wrote:
How can Mark Williams Thomas get so supported by the Mirror and by ITV?

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/i-tried-snare-mohamed-al-33709433


Did you pick up in here that Al Fayed was allegedly protected by Max Clifford? Clifford joked he was a "randy old sod"...What a tangled web...
 
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#248171
Chris

Re:Al Fayed 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
What are the odds on some asset-stripping vultures wanting Harrods on the cheap?
If this case is allowed to proceed then it will be proof, once and for all, that the Rule of Law under Starmer has been perverted beyond reason.
 
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#248177
MCR

Re:Al Fayed 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
I wonder if he was the one Mark Williams-Thomas referred to when he said there was another high profile person
still alive whose crimes won't come out until he is dead.
 
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#248178
robbiex

Re:Al Fayed 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
Rich wrote:
Fayed lived to last year at 94, so these people had a lot of time to make their accusations. But it feels like a deliberate wait until he'd passed away before doing so. In their defence maybe Fayed was highly litigious in his lifetime against such accusations.

Who's next?

There is one person I am very worried about who I hope has many years ahead of him and isn't going anywhere soon. He's already been grievously wronged by the BBC and received compensation, and was blameless. BUT....I just can't help but feel concerned that when he is no longer with us any longer there will be malicious types coming out the woodwork to renew fictitious claims about Cliff Richard and that the media will lap it up if so, or even start dredging around with a trawling operation all over again after he passes. I hope I'm wrong and simply overthinking it.


Yes they did make allegations, you obviously haven't seen the documentary. People on this website when someone is being accused and cry "False allegations", without knowing anything. There were allegations in 97 and an ITV documentary. The employees were forced to shred all their communication
 
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