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TOPIC: Assisted dying
#251614
Assisted dying 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
Intelligent discussion on LauraK and everyone seems to agree - it is difficult to decide. I tend to think Piers Morgan made the best point - massive increase in the Palliative Care section of society ought to happen NOW! Of course I'm rapidly reaching the age when such matters may concern me directly. Which very much led my opinion on the Covid panic. I was directly in that risk area - old and diabetic. But not in the worst category (smokers). So I tried to come to the conclusion I did - yes it was a killer plague for a small section of humanity but should not be treated as a danger to everyone.
Which meant that I felt lockdowns were wrong but voluntary behaviour strongly urged with the dangers pointed out. And much greater examination into what Covid was (is) - especially the effects of Long Covid.
It also meant I was in favour of vaccines (I've now had 9) but NOT in favour of people being forced into it.
 
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#251618
Green Man

Re:Assisted dying 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
Someone will make a fortune of organ harvesting and adrenochrome.
 
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#251623
robbiex

Re:Assisted dying 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
I think Liz Kendal made some good points about assisted dying and benefits and talked a lot of sense. One of the few decent ministers in this government.
 
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#251629
Downing Street Cat

Re:Assisted dying 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
For me it's simple. Allow someone to slowly suffer, deteriorate and die...or allow them the dignity of a peaceful death without all the mess, money and tremendous heartbreak involved. I went through all of that pain with my Ma. Never again. My own belief is that we move on to another life---we don't come back here---but emerge in another dimension. Nothing to do with religion. Let folk be born again. I hope I'm right.
 
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#251632
hedda

Re:Assisted dying 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
Downing Street Cat wrote:
For me it's simple. Allow someone to slowly suffer, deteriorate and die...or allow them the dignity of a peaceful death without all the mess, money and tremendous heartbreak involved. I went through all of that pain with my Ma. Never again. My own belief is that we move on to another life---we don't come back here---but emerge in another dimension. Nothing to do with religion. Let folk be born again. I hope I'm right.

Good points Larry.

One big problem is the medical industry just won't prescribe drugs that ease the pain of old age for the ludicrous reason a suffering elder may bloody feel good on such pills.

I hate junkies..they have ruined it for everyone.
 
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#251633
Honey

Re:Assisted dying 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
There is a massive difference between easing someone's pain even if it shortens their life, and bumping them off for convenience and profit.

It makes no sense.
If the NHS has no objection to a life being voluntarily shortened, they can jolly well up the pain meds, cant they?
 
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#251634
Wyot

Re:Assisted dying 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
Downing Street Cat wrote:


My own belief is that we move on to another life---we don't come back here---but emerge in another dimension. Nothing to do with religion. Let folk be born again. I hope I'm right.


If you just give the other dimension a name - say heaven? - then that sounds quite religious to me DSC...
 
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#251649
Green Man

Re:Assisted dying 2 Weeks, 5 Days ago  
Honey wrote:
There is a massive difference between easing someone's pain even if it shortens their life, and bumping them off for convenience and profit.

It makes no sense.
If the NHS has no objection to a life being voluntarily shortened, they can jolly well up the pain meds, cant they?


In Canada, they encourage their citizens to end their lives even if they have tinnitus or IBS. I don't know why people are so blind it's called eugenics.
 
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Green Man

Re:Assisted dying 2 Weeks, 4 Days ago  
 
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