As I've said before I admire Musk - mainly for sticking with his space efforts despite numerous failures - and I think there's a lot to be said for a maverick changing the accepted way of doing things. But just as I admire TRUMP for taking on the media and winning (twice), so I disagree with many of his opinions and positions. Remember this is the man who called a brilliant cave hero "a paedo guy". Musk is totally wrong about Starmer - as DPP he encouraged crime ("you will be believed even if you are lying") but NOT the crimes Musk accuses him of.
However in this era of mass miscommunication, simplification is king. It is far easier to win with simplistic slogans, appealing to the mob who have no depth of thought.
That's why Trump won again. That's why Musk is winning now. The only way for our side - decency, kindness, respect - to win is to take the same approach which is hard. Slogans do not tend to go hand in hand with decency.
We did it in the 1960s (All You Need Is Love).
This century it simply does not work.
Appealing to the best in humanity cannot succeed in today's world.
Nobody cares about the Rohingya or IPP or Gaza or any other injustices.
Not sexy.

Why on Earth do we need to spend untold $Billions sending rockets to that useless red rock Mars?

And Musk did sod all to do it..he took over Space X which was up and running and it was brilliant engineers who did it while he hoovered up $billions in subsidies.

You would be bonkers to ever catch a flight that Musk was on. He's dabbling in chaos with extremely dangerous characters and all the wealth in the world won't protect him if it's decided he has fulfilled a chosen purpose or has gotten too big for his boots.

History is littered with characters like Musk who were obscenely wealthy.

At the height of WW2 Adolf Hitler was the richest & most powerful man who had ever lived but ended up a pile of burnt bones shortly after.

Musk supports Israel's genocide and the killing of Palestinian children every day. Utterly vile.

I said I admire him - but I don't like him (or Trump) Hedda!

I think Melon is an idiot. I find it almost impossible to admire a man with 400bn whose hobby horse will be toy rockets and taking pennies away from the poorest. Beyond obscenity. His support for dribble spunk Yaxley Lennon is not in any way a fist pump for the common man either. I see him.

Musk is now tweeting that Greenland wants to be part of America.

How on earth would he even know what one Greenland citizen thinks?

No connection of course to the fact Greenland is a yet to be developed land of vast mineral wealth and just the type Musk needs.

Downing Street Cat wrote:
I think Melon is an idiot. I find it almost impossible to admire a man with 400bn whose hobby horse will be toy rockets and taking pennies away from the poorest. Beyond obscenity. His support for dribble spunk Yaxley Lennon is not in any way a fist pump for the common man either. I see him.

So supporting children who are victims of rape, media slurs and police cover-ups. Should be ignored?

hedda wrote:
Why on Earth do we need to spend untold $Billions sending rockets to that useless red rock Mars?

Looks like he is reading the Stephen Hawking playbook, apart from Musk going to Epstein Island of course.

www.cnbc.com/2017/05/05/stephen-hawking-...colonize-planet.html

Green Man wrote:
Downing Street Cat wrote:
I think Melon is an idiot. I find it almost impossible to admire a man with 400bn whose hobby horse will be toy rockets and taking pennies away from the poorest. Beyond obscenity. His support for dribble spunk Yaxley Lennon is not in any way a fist pump for the common man either. I see him.

So supporting children who are victims of rape, media slurs and police cover-ups. Should be ignored?

As if Musk gives a sod about children. Only discovered the fact there were "grooming gangs" last week.

Never expressed an iota of concern about Jeffrey Epstein's victims seeing he was a close pal. As was Trump.

And Trump is currently giving one of his rambling speeches with bizarre items like claiming gas heat is better than electric heat (?) and saying that he doesn't rule out taking over Greenland or the Panama Canal by force.

Oh and will change the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.

A rocky 4 years ahead. Not from Trump who will probably be just like his first 4 years spent mainly golfing and little else.

But Musk is in charge now.

He just gave an interview about his British born mum and how she had to make a living cleaning houses and how much he respected that.

However neglected to mentioned he sacked 100s of Twitter /X cleaners without a penny lay off money.

All charm and isn't he clever.

Show me the flight log where Trump went to the Island.

There is info that Clinton, Stephen Hawking, Diddy and Tom Hanks did.

I am more at the Hedda end of response here to Musk.

I do think the more he talks and the louder his megaphone gets the more incoherent he becomes. But I don't think Musk is the real problem. If he falls out of a window another will come along. He's no genius.

The bigger question is how did society get to the point where one unelected man can wield so much power and influence and shape things?

Democracy is irrelevant now. But I think Musk is a product of this, not some evil genius cause.

Yes you can see from his eyes that he's bonkers but these days that may not be a bad thing. Totally agree with WYOT - he's a symptom, not a cause. However society goes - like lemmings towards the cliff edge - this is the route humanity has chosen. Good luck to it. If reincarnation exists, it may well be up to me, next time around, to sort it out.

JK2006 wrote:
Yes you can see from his eyes that he's bonkers but these days that may not be a bad thing. Totally agree with WYOT - he's a symptom, not a cause. However society goes - like lemmings towards the cliff edge - this is the route humanity has chosen. Good luck to it. If reincarnation exists, it may well be up to me, next time around, to sort it out.

Everyone will have gone to the Moon JK.

Interesting that Musk's father ( I'm hopelessly biased but I find his parents especially his mother absolutely ghastly people)..says that when he was young people considered Elon to be retarded.

I think he's 'on the spectrum' as they say. I don't find him remotely interesting in any way. He acts at times like he is drugged..grinding teeth and leaping in the air but maybe that's normal for him.

I do think he's making life seriously dangerous for himself.

It doesn't matter how rich he is if nefarious characters decide he has gone too far. He is now seriously embarrassing powerful governments like the UK.

Entities like MI5 and MI6 don't play games. Involving yourself with dictators like Putin is wrought with danger.

I'm serious when I say I'd never go on the same plane Musk might be on.