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#254443
Rich

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
I'm surprised the son Eric wrote that rather stupid comment. It reeks of the most incredible arrogance. My own view has always been it's not what you say it's how you say it, and you don't say it like Eric Trump and hope to get a positive outcome. He needs to go to charm school, even his father can manage that sometimes.
 
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#254469
hedda

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
Rich wrote:
I'm surprised the son Eric wrote that rather stupid comment. It reeks of the most incredible arrogance. My own view has always been it's not what you say it's how you say it, and you don't say it like Eric Trump and hope to get a positive outcome. He needs to go to charm school, even his father can manage that sometimes.

Diplomacy doesn't seem to be a Trump
quality.

Recall the bloke who actually wrote "The Art of The Deal" for Trump said it was hogwash after he spent hours with Trump trying to do business deals.

The MAGA Mob voted for an imaginary Trump..the one who appeared in The Apprentice where producers had to tell him what to do.

Odd that he praises Starmer while Musk says he must go. Is it a subtle message from Trump to Musk?
 
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#254522
Rich

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks, 4 Days ago  
I know some people were expecting chaos under President Trump, but an American Airlines jet crash within sight of the White House in Washington, just terrible. I see Trump has said;

"The airplane was on a perfect and routine line of approach to the airport," Trump wrote.

"The helicopter was going straight at the airplane for an extended period of time. It is a CLEAR NIGHT, the lights on the plane were blazing.

"Why didn't the helicopter go up or down, or turn. Why didn't the control tower tell the helicopter what to do instead of asking if they saw the plane.

"This is a bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented. NOT GOOD!!!"
 
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#254574
hedda

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks, 3 Days ago  
Rich wrote:
I know some people were expecting chaos under President Trump, but an American Airlines jet crash within sight of the White House in Washington, just terrible. I see Trump has said;

"The airplane was on a perfect and routine line of approach to the airport," Trump wrote.

"The helicopter was going straight at the airplane for an extended period of time. It is a CLEAR NIGHT, the lights on the plane were blazing.

"Why didn't the helicopter go up or down, or turn. Why didn't the control tower tell the helicopter what to do instead of asking if they saw the plane.

"This is a bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented. NOT GOOD!!!"


Not even Trump with all his advisers could possibly know how this accident happened at this stage.

Under Biden and Obama there were no commercial airline fatalities. He's playing pretty awful politics but the MAGAs will lap it up especially the latest incorrect claim that one pilot was transgender.

That would indicate that the USA had reached a point where airline travel, considering the 1000s of flights every week, was safe.
 
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#254578
hedda

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
Green Man wrote:
You supported lockdown Hedda along with many other people.

Trump was pressured into lockdown but the Florida remained open.


I most certainly did and in Australia where it was severly supervised deaths were low.

Under Trump 100,000s died while he waffled abut bleach.
 
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#254583
Green Man

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
hedda wrote:
Green Man wrote:
You supported lockdown Hedda along with many other people.

Trump was pressured into lockdown but the Florida remained open.


I most certainly did and in Australia where it was severly supervised deaths were low.

Under Trump 100,000s died while he waffled abut bleach.



He never said drank bleach, only people who snuffed from COVID were the ones who were already poorly. People died with Covid, not from Covid.

He said Hydroxychloroquine. Even doctors on podcasts mention hydroxychloroquine.

www.nhs.uk/medicines/hydroxychloroquine/
 
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Last Edit: 2025/02/01 16:19 By JK2006. Reason: Removed insulting language
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#254591
Green Man

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
Telling the truth is now "insulting language" JK?

I thought 1984 was a novel. Not a music forum.
 
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#254593
Rich

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
hedda wrote:
Rich wrote:
I know some people were expecting chaos under President Trump, but an American Airlines jet crash within sight of the White House in Washington, just terrible. I see Trump has said;

"The airplane was on a perfect and routine line of approach to the airport," Trump wrote.

"The helicopter was going straight at the airplane for an extended period of time. It is a CLEAR NIGHT, the lights on the plane were blazing.

"Why didn't the helicopter go up or down, or turn. Why didn't the control tower tell the helicopter what to do instead of asking if they saw the plane.

"This is a bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented. NOT GOOD!!!"


Not even Trump with all his advisers could possibly know how this accident happened at this stage.

Under Biden and Obama there were no commercial airline fatalities. He's playing pretty awful politics but the MAGAs will lap it up especially the latest incorrect claim that one pilot was transgender.

That would indicate that the USA had reached a point where airline travel, considering the 1000s of flights every week, was safe.







This is completely untrue. I thought your claim seemed unlikely. There were commercial airline fatalities under Obama & Biden. Take a look.

50 killed on 12th February 2009 when Colgan Air Flight 3407 stalled on approach to New York;

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colgan_Air_Flight_3407


3 killed on 6th July 2013 when Asiana Airlines Flight 214 crashed on approach to San Francisco Internation Airport;

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiana_Airlines_Flight_214


10 killed the next day, 7th July 2013 when this Air DHC-3 Otter crashed on take off in Alaska;

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Rediske_Air_DHC-3_Otter_crash


10 killed on 4th September 2022 when yet another Air DHC-3 Otter crashed in Washington State;

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Mutiny_Bay_DHC-3_Otter_crash


These are among a more comprehensive list that can be found here;

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_acci...in_the_United_States


I must admit I cannot remember that New York one just a month after Obama took office.
 
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#254594
Al Gershwin

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
Green Man wrote:
only people who snuffed from COVID were the ones who were already poorly


And here are the facts; please don't ignore them...


www.who.int/data/stories/the-true-death-...bal-excess-mortality
 
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#254595
hedda

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
Green Man wrote:
[quote]hedda wrote:
Green Man wrote:
You supported lockdown Hedda along with many other people.

Trump was pressured into lockdown but the Florida remained open.


I most certainly did and in Australia where it was severly supervised deaths were low.

Under Trump 100,000s died while he waffled abut bleach.


He said inject bleach. He was responsible for 10,000s of deaths thru sheer incompetence in handling the deadly scourge.

One can only imagine how worse it would have been with a heroin addict who says a worm ate his brain was in charge.

Lunatics running the asylum,

Some people would take medical advice from Dr Crippen.

www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52407177
 
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#254598
Rich

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
The real pandemic we are left with nowadays is the mind virus known as Trump Derangement Syndrome.

I'm sure nobody actually thought Trump was suggesting they glug down a litre of Domestos meant for the toilet bowl, or inject it either.
 
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#254605
Green Man

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
Rich wrote:
hedda wrote:
Rich wrote:
I know some people were expecting chaos under President Trump, but an American Airlines jet crash within sight of the White House in Washington, just terrible. I see Trump has said;

"The airplane was on a perfect and routine line of approach to the airport," Trump wrote.

"The helicopter was going straight at the airplane for an extended period of time. It is a CLEAR NIGHT, the lights on the plane were blazing.

"Why didn't the helicopter go up or down, or turn. Why didn't the control tower tell the helicopter what to do instead of asking if they saw the plane.

"This is a bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented. NOT GOOD!!!"


Not even Trump with all his advisers could possibly know how this accident happened at this stage.

Under Biden and Obama there were no commercial airline fatalities. He's playing pretty awful politics but the MAGAs will lap it up especially the latest incorrect claim that one pilot was transgender.

That would indicate that the USA had reached a point where airline travel, considering the 1000s of flights every week, was safe.







This is completely untrue. I thought your claim seemed unlikely. There were commercial airline fatalities under Obama & Biden. Take a look.

50 killed on 12th February 2009 when Colgan Air Flight 3407 stalled on approach to New York;

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colgan_Air_Flight_3407


3 killed on 6th July 2013 when Asiana Airlines Flight 214 crashed on approach to San Francisco Internation Airport;

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiana_Airlines_Flight_214


10 killed the next day, 7th July 2013 when this Air DHC-3 Otter crashed on take off in Alaska;

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Rediske_Air_DHC-3_Otter_crash


10 killed on 4th September 2022 when yet another Air DHC-3 Otter crashed in Washington State;

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Mutiny_Bay_DHC-3_Otter_crash


These are among a more comprehensive list that can be found here;

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_acci...in_the_United_States


I must admit I cannot remember that New York one just a month after Obama took office.


I appreciate your fact-checking mate.
 
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#254608
Downing Street Cat

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
At this point, and so early on, not sure how anyone can defend this Trump administration. Totally mindless acts of sabotage and puerile vengeance. Musk shouldn't be there. Trump will rue the day. And when the fall out happens, Musk will bring him down.
 
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#254611
hedda

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
Where they transgender dwarf black lesbian pilots also.
 
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#254632
Rich

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
You might appreciate my fact checking GM but I don't think Hedda has.

I'm certainly prepared to criticise Trump when needs be, and I think his slapping tariff's on Canada at 25% seems a very unnecessary fight there and all it's now done is gift Trudeau a parting swipe at Trump with his retaliation and ability to grandstand himself back. To treat Canada like China is not good at all. Of course none of this helps consumers or inflation does it, although I do think China needs action of some kind, and like it or not, you've got to admire Trump saying things during his re-election campaign and actually doing it.
 
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#254647
Green Man

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
Rich wrote:
You might appreciate my fact checking GM but I don't think Hedda has.

I'm certainly prepared to criticise Trump when needs be, and I think his slapping tariff's on Canada at 25% seems a very unnecessary fight there and all it's now done is gift Trudeau a parting swipe at Trump with his retaliation and ability to grandstand himself back. To treat Canada like China is not good at all. Of course none of this helps consumers or inflation does it, although I do think China needs action of some kind, and like it or not, you've got to admire Trump saying things during his re-election campaign and actually doing it.


I did post a very thread, but JK didn't publish it. It was a counterargument about Hedda thinking about Trump's suggestion about digesting Domestos.

The far-left is complaining and their TDS is priceless. Hedda, Jo and Cat!

Barney's wild antics, his inability to resist responding to me, and his habit of using other people's names, along with his peculiar obsession with me, will never cease to amuse me. He is probably waiting to get off in his pants with a "gotcha moment" which journos try and do.
 
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#254648
Green Man

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
Al Gershwin wrote:
Green Man wrote:
only people who snuffed from COVID were the ones who were already poorly


And here are the facts; please don't ignore them...


www.who.int/data/stories/the-true-death-...bal-excess-mortality


The WHO? The ones that do NOT recognise Taiwan and changed their stances on Covid and lockdown from day to day. They were following the money.
 
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#254664
hedda

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks ago  
Rich wrote:
I do think China needs action of some kind, and like it or not, you've got to admire Trump saying things during his re-election campaign and actually doing it..

I'm in 2 minds about China.

They may on a path of world domination (with some allies) but I reckon it will be via trade (BRICS) and not war (Taiwan of course is a worry)

Various right wing Australian governments have foolishly lorded it over the South Pacific nations, treated them like vassal states.Stole their oil (Timor)
Result: China stepped in with massive investments, building ports and such.

I always recall Khrushchev's words in the 50s " we won't have to invade America, we'll take it from within.

Seeing he did virtually nothing in his first Term, I'm amazed at Trump's current speed.
Those US Oligarchs don't waste time.

It's era of JD Vance that will be fascinating. Not sure I'll be around though for it so I doubt I'll be able to save the USA from my PC on a remote island.
 
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#254666
Downing Street Cat

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks ago  
Have i missed it? I’ve yet to see any declaration of solidarity with Canada from Starmer. Instead we seem to be creeping around saying suck up to him to the max and he’ll be nice to us. Which is an idiotic fantasy.
 
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#254682
hedda

Re:The Second Presidency of Donald Trump - A dedicated thread 2 Weeks ago  
Downing Street Cat wrote:
Have i missed it? I’ve yet to see any declaration of solidarity with Canada from Starmer. Instead we seem to be creeping around saying suck up to him to the max and he’ll be nice to us. Which is an idiotic fantasy.

Trump is putting the hard word on Starmer right now.

We're all keeping our heads down, Down Under, hoping he won't notice us..but but

Trump was refused an Australian gaming license in the late 90s after Federal Police concluded he was an "untrustworthy suspect character".

What if his long term memory comes back?

My only surprise is that he hasn't declared Martial Law yet
 
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