This sad Stockport incident simply illustrates that there are loonies around. Demanding ten page documents and videos for online purchases of knives is not only pointless but deflects attention from the real problems by pandering to media outrage. If a loony wants a knife, he or she will get a knife. Knives, like guns, are not the problem. Can't stupid Starmer understand that? When will WE BE BELIEVED?

And this kind of Southport incident is extremely rare. As for children they are most at risk from road accidents and from people they know in their own homes. But the tabloids remember used Hindley and Brady to sell papers for four decades.

The Government hasn't a clue what to do about the real issues behind Southport (and most other issues) so uses soundbites and legislation to try and somehow force change. It will never work.

It is masturbatory.

No it's worse than that WYOT - there is nothing wrong with masturbation. But when it becomes an excuse to avoid doing anything proper to sort problems, it is lethal. When Starmer (and most other politicians) are ruled by "What will media say?" and "Will I lose popularity?" instead of "Free IPP inmates today" or "Sort out the broken judicial system", and allow the current media "scandal" to influence their work, society is in real shit. But worse is when so many of US - often without realising - play the same game. It should not be impossible to care about both grieving parents and friends and family AND the mad loony - but 99% of punters seem to find that impossible. Why is it impossible for someone who dislikes someone like Trump to find it possible to admit admiring him for some things? Humanity - as I've said, has swallowed the stupid pill.

Downing Street Cat wrote:
And this kind of Southport incident is extremely rare. As for children they are most at risk from road accidents and from people they know in their own homes. But the tabloids remember used Hindley and Brady to sell papers for four decades.

God forbid, if you are a parent.

Such a callous remark, it's only rare, if it does not happen to you.

Wyot wrote:
The Government hasn't a clue what to do about the real issues behind Southport (and most other issues) so uses soundbites and legislation to try and somehow force change. It will never work.

It is masturbatory.

Without sounding crass, the Brits warned all about these dangerous loons by the likes of Farage and I to admit it but the BNP.

Labour and Tories know if they piss of the Asians off they will lose the Muslim votes. Not forgetting there can be about 2-3 generations of Muslim families in one dwelling. Starmer lives in bubble.

JK2006 wrote:


But worse is when so many of US - often without realising - play the same game. It should not be impossible to care about both grieving parents and friends and family AND the mad loony - but 99% of punters seem to find that impossible.

I am reading an incredibly interesting book about the brain and society, "The Matter With Things" by Dr Iain McGilchrist.

He explains that - basically and crudely - the left hemisphere used to and should "serve" the right hemisphere; but has come to dominate and ignore the right hemisphere.

The left hemisphere is linear, hermetic, inward looking, and loves to put everything in a box. Black and white etc.

The right, by contrast, is concerned with a 360 degree view of the world, is subtle and appreciates nuance, is wise and can hold contradictory views. It emphasises empathy, beauty and art.

The author argues that the way we have set up our societies and live our lives means that the left increasingly dominates.

The left would NEVER allow empathy for the Stockport loon as well as the grieving families. It literally would be blind to even the concept.

It is interesting - and not at all difficult - to spot "left" and "right" leaning hemisphere led posters on here.

And of course a brief persual of twitter will show which dominates online!

Just looking at his photo tells you he is stark raving mad.

I'm just surprised there are not more like him even though (ghastly) Blair said to stop being depressed.

Point taken JK re Trump but I still cant get anyone to tell me what his positive points might be.

Show his this authour grusome videos and see how he reacts.

According to scientists, those are on the left don't respond to gore or watching live maggots munching on a corpse.

Those on the right show reactions that you want the films to stop.


It's an interesting study.

Green Man wrote:
Downing Street Cat wrote:
And this kind of Southport incident is extremely rare. As for children they are most at risk from road accidents and from people they know in their own homes. But the tabloids remember used Hindley and Brady to sell papers for four decades.

God forbid, if you are a parent.

Such a callous remark, it's only rare, if it does not happen to you. Wind your neck in GM. This kind of crime IS rare. As was the Dunblane massacre. That doesn't mean I am not appalled by it. And yes, most children alive today who wo t make it to adulthood will die on the roads or in their own homes. Why do you finds facts offensive?

Downing Street Cat wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Downing Street Cat wrote:
And this kind of Southport incident is extremely rare. As for children they are most at risk from road accidents and from people they know in their own homes. But the tabloids remember used Hindley and Brady to sell papers for four decades.

God forbid, if you are a parent.

Such a callous remark, it's only rare, if it does not happen to you. Wind your neck in GM. This kind of crime IS rare. As was the Dunblane massacre. That doesn't mean I am not appalled by it. And yes, most children alive today who wo t make it to adulthood will die on the roads or in their own homes. Why do you finds facts offensive?

I like facts, I hate people with their own versions of truth and media "truth". You call Dunblane rare, it's not rare in the Americas.

We only know about the crimes that the MSM want report and print.

Even if these types of crimes are rare, it's still one too many. Wind your neck in Cat.

Some might say that Starmer himself is currently engaged in one of the biggest British massacres of all time and he doesn't need a gun or a knife to do it.

Rich wrote:
Some might say that Starmer himself is currently engaged in one of the biggest British massacres of all time and he doesn't need a gun or a knife to do it.

Yet, Axel is one of many, do you remember that even if somebody got cut by a knife in the street, it would be in the paper as it was rare?

Now the media only report if there is mutiple killings like Southport or when a lad gets knifed. If the latter is Black on Black or over drugs it gets buried then forgotten.

There could have been another Southport massacre in an ASDA in Croydon, if it wasn't for the people tackling the nutter. The media now downplay things by saying "they were known to each other" if there is killing or an assualt by a knife.

It does not matter if people were known to each other. I see more compassion on social media posts, if they are written by those are parents.

I have said before on here. I was no saint as a kid but when he had knifes it was used for whittling, cutting branches in the woods. If we got in fist fights it was always one on one, and grudges were settled in a few minutes. No knives were never used, we even had respect for our elders and the Garda, there one Garda who lived locally if we wasn't on duty he would help out building dens with us.

He respected us and we respected him, if we would even bring his own tools which were miles better than little our budget DIY sets.

However, if we stepped out of line the officer would give us a solid clip round the ear or the back of the head.

There was no need to tell our parents about the slap, as our parents would hit us for back chatting.
I can still remember the sting of my father's hefty belt buckle going across my knee caps.

people need to ask why there is no strong male role models at home anymore. Parents were not friends, as they seem to be these days. There is one youngish father who goes to my local who calls all his children "mate".