I liked the look and sound of Kemi when she tried to become Tory leader first time - but she's too far right for me (especially on immigration) so I rooted for Cleverly to be Tory leader - not that I care much about any of them, being basically more Lib Dem than the rest, if only they had a decent leader.

A good Party broadcast though. And anyone is better than Starmer.

But nobody rings a bell with me since Jeremy.

I find both MPs distasteful. A sad reflection on the state of the Tory party.

I want intelligent clever MPs in both parties. Starmer is really vile the way he so blatantly lied to get power but I doubt Kemi could take him down.

I pray there are clever bright politicians in the making out there.

# it's surprising but Magic Grandpa Corbyn is looking ever so "normal" these days considering the current state of politics.

Just tell the public what they want to hear and then backtrack. Blame the old government, blame it on overseas conflict, blame the public, blame the weather and not yourself.

hedda wrote:
I find both MPs distasteful. A sad reflection on the state of the Tory party.

I want intelligent clever MPs in both parties. Starmer is really vile the way he so blatantly lied to get power but I doubt Kemi could take him down.

I pray there are clever bright politicians in the making out there.

# it's surprising but Magic Grandpa Corbyn is looking ever so "normal" these days considering the current state of politics.


If Andy Burnham was in the commons as an MP right now rather than a mayor I think Starmer would be in real big trouble.

I think it has taken the front benches of both Labour and Tories to sink into such dreadful mediocrity that it now gives Farage the big moment and opportunity of a lifetime to prize apart their cosy little see-saw power play with each other because the real substantive politicians with clout and charisma are in neither of them anymore.

I have noticed one thing about Badenoch lately, she is wearing Thatcher style royal blue outfits quite a bit more.