Isn't it wonderful to have a leader so smug at spilling blood?

that's what I was thinking.

david wrote:
that's what I was thinking.

"our taxes" ?

"our taxes" ? LOL !

Are you actually including yourself in that statement ?
(nudge nudge, wink wink, know what I mean?)

People in glass houses, david !

JK2006 wrote:
Isn't it wonderful to have a leader so smug at spilling blood?

Thatcher was even worse. 'Rejoice,' she said, celebrating the deaths of so many, thanks on that occasion purely and exclusively to British troops. The only time that vile woman shed a tear was when she was booted out of office. Still a fan?

Prunella Minge wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
Isn't it wonderful to have a leader so smug at spilling blood?

Thatcher was even worse.

Thatcher was at least defending British territory,all Camerooon did was get involved in a civil war that had nothing to do with him.

In The Know wrote:
david wrote:
that's what I was thinking.

"our taxes" ?

"our taxes" ? LOL !

Are you actually including yourself in that statement ?
(nudge nudge, wink wink, know what I mean?)

People in glass houses, david !

Oh dear ITK is returning to his old ways

In The Know wrote:
david wrote:
that's what I was thinking.

"our taxes" ?

"our taxes" ? LOL !

Are you actually including yourself in that statement ?
(nudge nudge, wink wink, know what I mean?)

People in glass houses, david !

errm, don't get the glass houses reference....

Besides, you know nothing of my current circumstances. Please tell if you do. Or shut up if you don't. It'll be the latter then, won't it?

Never a fan of most of Thatcher's policies Pru; but a huge fan of the lady as a charismatic leader who did what she believed was right.

Not a fan of Cameron at all, I'm afraid; he does what Paul Dacre believes is right.

The Nuremberg Trials happened (despite some like Churchill just wanting Nazis put against the wall) for a good reason in the hope that all no matter how loathsome a person was they would be seen to have a fair trial of their peers but all that's out the window as Cameron /Clinton/Obama (all inter changeable with Blair) are seen to celebrate summorary execution and the beying mob as they rip apart their opponents.

As long as it's our mob (today). We'll choose which person, which group are bombed out of existence and smash a Tesco window and nick a bottle of water ??... we'll show you how tough we are on crime !

The Dacres and Murdochs simply present the views of the ruling class who have always been savage.

I think JK is right..as a race we are becoming increasingly savage and no longer hide it, just window dress it and the weekly news cycle will take care of people's memories ..it's like a vast 60 Minute Makeover for the masses.

NB..Cameron still pushing the Lockerbie hoax despite the majority of victim's families no longer believing it.

In The Know wrote:
david wrote:
that's what I was thinking.

"our taxes" ?

"our taxes" ? LOL !

Are you actually including yourself in that statement ?
(nudge nudge, wink wink, know what I mean?)

People in glass houses, david !

I presume David pays GST on his purchases unless he either found a way not to or is completely self sufficient in every way in which case I congratulate him and ask.... what is his secret ?

veritas wrote:
The Nuremberg Trials happened (despite some like Churchill just wanting Nazis put against the wall) for a good reason in the hope that all no matter how loathsome a person was they would be seen to have a fair trial of their peers but all that's out the window as Cameron /Clinton/Obama (all inter changeable with Blair) are seen to celebrate summorary execution and the beying mob as they rip apart their opponents.

What would you have us put him on trial for, veritas ?

The killing of over 1000 people at a Triploi prison in 1996 ?
The Lockerbie bombing (appx 350 dead) ?
The killing of WPC Fletcher in London ?
The many many atrocities already reported in Libya ?
The bombing of the nightclub in Berlin (in which many Americans died) ?
The supply of arms and semtex to the IRA (costing hundreds of lives) ?

etc etc

All of the above ?

Each and every one of the above carries a death penalty ...
do you really believe he would have been acquitted of ALL charges ?

Jeremy Bowen (BBC News) reported just now that he has never know Tripoli to be so calm (and hes been visiting regularly for over 30 years). He also said that Libyans are unconcerned about how Gaddafi died ... so long as he is dead !!!

What do you do with a mad dog - - - you shoot it !

Gaddafi was 69 ... the trials could have gone on for years, and he could have died peacefully at The Hague (like Milosovic) waiting the outcome.

You do have support, though, veritas.
We were discussing this in the pub last night and the general concensus was that we should have "given him a fair trial - before hanging him"

In The Know wrote:
[quote]veritas wrote:

We were discussing this in the pub last night and the general concensus was that we should have "given him a fair trial - before hanging him"

Was that after you read The Sun?

In The Know wrote:
veritas wrote:
The Nuremberg Trials happened (despite some like Churchill just wanting Nazis put against the wall) for a good reason in the hope that all no matter how loathsome a person was they would be seen to have a fair trial of their peers but all that's out the window as Cameron /Clinton/Obama (all inter changeable with Blair) are seen to celebrate summorary execution and the beying mob as they rip apart their opponents.

What would you have us put him on trial for, veritas ?

The killing of over 1000 people at a Triploi prison in 1996 ?
The Lockerbie bombing (appx 350 dead) ?
The killing of WPC Fletcher in London ?
The many many atrocities already reported in Libya ?
The bombing of the nightclub in Berlin (in which many Americans died) ?
The supply of arms and semtex to the IRA (costing hundreds of lives) ?

etc etc

All of the above ?

Each and every one of the above carries a death penalty ...
do you really believe he would have been acquitted of ALL charges ?

Jeremy Bowen (BBC News) reported just now that he has never know Tripoli to be so calm (and hes been visiting regularly for over 30 years). He also said that Libyans are unconcerned about how Gaddafi died ... so long as he is dead !!!

What do you do with a mad dog - - - you shoot it !

Gaddafi was 69 ... the trials could have gone on for years, and he could have died peacefully at The Hague (like Milosovic) waiting the outcome.

You do have support, though, veritas.
We were discussing this in the pub last night and the general concensus was that we should have "given him a fair trial - before hanging him"

Still waiting for an answer, veritas !
Let me know if the question is too difficult?

In The Know wrote:
In The Know wrote:
veritas wrote:
The Nuremberg Trials happened (despite some like Churchill just wanting Nazis put against the wall) for a good reason in the hope that all no matter how loathsome a person was they would be seen to have a fair trial of their peers but all that's out the window as Cameron /Clinton/Obama (all inter changeable with Blair) are seen to celebrate summorary execution and the beying mob as they rip apart their opponents.

What would you have us put him on trial for, veritas ?

The killing of over 1000 people at a Triploi prison in 1996 ?
The Lockerbie bombing (appx 350 dead) ?
The killing of WPC Fletcher in London ?
The many many atrocities already reported in Libya ?
The bombing of the nightclub in Berlin (in which many Americans died) ?
The supply of arms and semtex to the IRA (costing hundreds of lives) ?

etc etc

All of the above ?

Each and every one of the above carries a death penalty ...
do you really believe he would have been acquitted of ALL charges ?

Jeremy Bowen (BBC News) reported just now that he has never know Tripoli to be so calm (and hes been visiting regularly for over 30 years). He also said that Libyans are unconcerned about how Gaddafi died ... so long as he is dead !!!

What do you do with a mad dog - - - you shoot it !

Gaddafi was 69 ... the trials could have gone on for years, and he could have died peacefully at The Hague (like Milosovic) waiting the outcome.

You do have support, though, veritas.
We were discussing this in the pub last night and the general concensus was that we should have "given him a fair trial - before hanging him"

Still waiting for an answer, veritas !
Let me know if the question is too difficult?

not sure what the question is ..but yes..I think it's most important to put him and any other war criminal on trial (including G.Bush & T.Blair).

All the things you mention..a trial would have brought out the truth of what really happened..especially Lockerbie where it's very questionable that Libya was involved and surely many of the relatives who believe that deserve to find out the truth.

Glad Jeremy Bowen found Tripoli to be very quiet...although presumably it was a year ago as well before Nato became involved (unlike London with it's riots).

Jeremy must have his work cut out for him though...questioning every Libyan over what they think.

(PS..I meant David must VAT..not GST ..the Oz version. Which means every single person who makes a purchase is a taxpayer)

veritas wrote:

not sure what the question is ..but yes..I think it's most important to put him and any other war criminal on trial (including G.Bush & T.Blair).

The question was in the first line !!!! ... to make it easy for you.

I disagree ... a trial would have lasted years, and he was 69 already. Dying (while awaiting the outcome) would have been a terrible travesty.

Jeremy Bowen found Tripoli to be very quiet...although presumably it was a year ago as well before Nato became involved (unlike London with it's riots).

No - it was last week ! He said he had never know Tripoli to be so calm and peaceful.

must have his work cut out for him though...questioning every Libyan over what they think.

He wasn't questioning Libyans - it was HIS opinion (after visiting regularly for many years.

In The Know wrote:
[quote]veritas wrote:


I disagree ... a trial would have lasted years, and he was 69 already. Dying (while awaiting the outcome) would have been a terrible travesty.

Jeremy Bowen found Tripoli to be very quiet...although presumably it was a year ago as well before Nato became involved (unlike London with it's riots).

No - it was last week ! He said he had never know Tripoli to be so calm and peaceful.

must have his work cut out for him though...questioning every Libyan over what they think.

He wasn't questioning Libyans - it was HIS opinion (after visiting regularly for many years.

it is an interesting concept...go directly to the firing squad and avoid a trial. Saves time.

I've been visiting London for years and found it very quiet ( not the traffic of course).
I've never been to Tottenham though.